We wish the Kurdish People Independence NOW!

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  1. alan131210

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    The fact that Ararat (Van) was an Armenian city ones does not mean that it should not be controlled by Kurdish people. Historicaly almost whole Kurdistan was taken from Armenians, but today it is called Kurdistan and is not occupied by any Armenians as a fact. There is only one Armenian village left in the whole territory, which is in Hatay (Antakya). The fact that Armenians were thrown out of their own land is a terrible incidence, but does not change the fact that Kurdish people must have freedom where they are currently living.

    All of the nations that are recognized in the world today have taken the land of the ones who were there before. It is a fact that humans have been immigrating and invading for thousands of years. So, what you call justice should take Turks back to central Asia.
     
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    I really wonder what kinda of motivation an Armenian has for a Kurdistan?

    Why you Israelis and Armenians putting your nose in Turkish-Kurdish Relations?
     
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    great analyse...
     
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    During my vacations i had the chance to meet with some people who are doing business in Iraqi Kurdistan , from what they said Turkey is throwing so much money in the area that at least now displeasing Ergodan's government would be stupid.
     
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    our oil will make the Kurdish state possible, which IS already established just needs proclaiming.
     
  9. litwin

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    so what? Turkey is a democratic country , PM will do what majority of Turks want , if they want go into Iraq and fuc% of the way...only USA can(and will) stop this madness
     
  10. haydar

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    Of course I don't say that all nations have to turn their first home, In this case I have to leave from Istanbul.
    If you want to learn what I want to say and if you know a little bit about the demography of the Anatolia, you will see that the map which posted as Kurdistan is just a dream. Kurds are not majority big part of this map, they even put to this map 3 cities where nationalist Turks are majority.

    Anyway, there is no need to talk to much, as you said that because of Armenians lived in these lands don't mean that Kurds can't have control, that's right and I say Because of minority of Kurds wants to be seperated (my refferance the voting range of the seperatist Kurdish party) these lands will not be seperated. That's all. It didn't happened in 1990's which years PKK was 3-4 times powerfull than now. PKK is forcing people to vote to Kurdish party, they force people to give money support and force them to send their children to mountain. It is pitty that these children die without learning about life , you say they die for freedom, the reality they die from ignorance, they die from unemployement and to be desperate. Researches show that average life of an permenant PKK member is 7 years. Nobady can make me beleive they die because they can't have education in their own language or they are forced in old to say what a happy to be Turkish.
     
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    I know that minorty of Kurds want to be seperated, I also know that Abdullah Öcalan and PKK claimed that their ultimate goal is not to have a state anymore, instead their ultimate goal is autonomy.

    I also agree that these are desperate people, who have nothing left for them.

    But I do not think you see what kind of a life they are choosing by joining PKK. It is the result of a desperateness that I think you should try to understand more.
     
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    I know that minorty of Kurds want to be seperated, I also know that Abdullah Öcalan and PKK claimed that their ultimate goal is not to have a state anymore, instead their ultimate goal is autonomy.

    I also agree that these are desperate people, who have nothing left for them.

    But I do not think you see what kind of a life they are choosing by joining PKK. It is the result of a desperateness that I think you should try to understand more.
     
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    I know that majority of Kurds in Turkey do not want to be seperated, I also know that Abdullah Öcalan and PKK claimed that their ultimate goal is not to have a state anymore, instead their ultimate goal is autonomy.

    I also agree that these are desperate people, who have nothing left.

    But I do not think you see what kind of a life they are choosing by joining PKK. It is the result of a desperateness that I think you should try to understand more.
     
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    ye`Turkey strong1111 . nationalism works, you are a rich liberal but you are brain-washed (by your lovely state ) like a poor North Korean peasant.
     
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    It was a hint for businessmen mostly , there is only one Turkish bank in Arvil ( dunno about Mosul ) and no other Turkish presence but from what i have learn they are investing in infrastructure via proxies . It is for the best interest of Turkey to have a friendly oil supplier in the region and also a stable government that can prevent guerrillas getting in and out when they want.
     
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    turks own half Iraqi Kurdistan but it means not much, if a big Turkish -Kurdish war breakups
     
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    turks are not investing in anything, they built and leave.

    yes we supply turkey with oil but its not free and turkey is paying for it.
     
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    Lieberman: US to provide the no fly zone for the Syrian kurdish region the same way it did for KRG in 1991

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    Joseph Lieberman the US congress member that is currently in KRG announced that US wants to provide a no fly zone for the kurdish region in syria the same way they did back in 1991 for KRG.

    http://bas-news.net/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleid=1571
     
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    Yeah - FREE - to screw + backstab each other . LOL



    Hahahaha - Pigs will fly before then , Dream on .

    ;).
     
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    OMG - Do you know what most intelligent people in Israel + elsewhere think of Lieberman .?

    Alan , i suggest you find out more abt LiE-berman. before embarrassing yourself by quoteing him again.

    HAHAHAHA.
     
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    The Turks have made enemies gratuitously.
     
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    Question:

    in which country speaking kurdish is forbidden ?
    1- Sweden 2-Turkey 3-USA 4-Germany

    Question:
    Where was the capital of the First Kurdish republic?
    1- Berlin 2-Washington 3-Mahabad 4-Paris
     
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    Very well said Haydar.Thanks for the post.PKK is no different from Turkish Fascists,Both of them work in the same way.How pitiful just young Turkish and Kurdish people pay the price without knowing why they are dying for....

    T'm afraid North Korea is much better than Turkey....

    For first question my answer is:None of them cos in Turkey speaking Kurdish is not forbidden......
    We have TV channels which broadcast in Kurdish language...There are some restrictions but it doesnt mean your false propaganda is true
     

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