Ron Paul may run Third party/anouncement tuesday 11/4/12

Sounds like a thirteen year old kid stomping their feet and throwing a fit telling me to stay home if i dont vote for thier guy lol.

Mitt is a coward and a liar. He ran to france to live in a mansion while other kids his age fought for their country. He like other neocons have a history of progressive policy. No my vote is my voice. And my statement is that the the only true conservitive party running is libertarian.

If i wanted to vote directly for the winner and ignore my beliefs i would vote directly for obama.

 

It might be just an anouncement that Ron Paul will be endorcing Gary Johnson. IT apears it is too late in the game for Ron Paul to run third party.

Here is more on this.
http://www.examiner.com/article/rum...ul-s-tuesday-night-s-trip-to-the-tonight-show

After what the republican party did leading up to and during the RNC. I think they will not get any of the Ron Paul supporters. I am glad too because they have become greater of the two evils.

 

Sad, but true.

 

The same way people felt when John McCain couldn't beat Obama in 2008. That it was a stupid decision on the GOPs part to pick a crappy candidate. If Obama wins 4 more years its the GOP's own friggin fault for picking Romney as the candidate in the first place.

 

Ron Paul is not going to endorse Romney. Had he wanted to do that he would have accepted to podium offer at the RNC which was conditional upon him endorsing Romney.

In reality most libertarians prefer Obama over Romney based upon the discussions I've had with other libertarians. About the only difference between the two is that the rich would get richer under Romney and civil rights would suffer.

Economically they both support the continuing bankruptcy of America with indefinate deficit spending that will double the national debt. Both support the globalized use of the US military that we can't afford and which has nothing to do with defending America from attacks. Neither has offered any solution to the problems of Social Security/Medicare. Both are BIG GOVERNMENT authoritarians each for their own reasons. From a "government" standpoint both are highly objectionable to libertarians.

In the end I believe it's Romney's attacks on the civil liberties that give Obama an advantage as far as libertarian opinion goes. Libertarians find "social conservativism" based upon religious beliefs to be highly offensive as it violates fundamental inalienable Rights of the Individual. Romney's opposition to equality in marriage for same-gender couples as well as his open opposition to any women's Rights on abortion based upon his religious intolerance is what turns most libertarians off to him.

Of note there is a remote hope that Gary Johnson could end up being the next president. If Gary Johnson receives enough electorial college votes so that neither Romney or Obama wins the election then it would be in the best interests of both Republicans and Democrats for Johnson to become president as opposed to their primary opponent. Remote to say the least but arguably that remote possibility does exist.

 

Bingo.

It is really sad when the GOP says, "This crappy candidate is all that we're offering" and then expect intelligent Americans to vote for that candidate. Uninformed voters will vote for Romney (or Obama) because they don't understand that their vote is really a vote to destroy America. Informed voters simply can't vote for either of them.

 

What it is Shiva is that people need to really calm down and start to really think. They are so amped up and angry at other conservatives for being "traitors" to the GOP. What they need to do is to stop attacking other conservatives for voting for a different candidate and rather to ask WHY they are voting for a different candidate and try to understand that. There wouldn't be a rift in the conservative party if people just changed their way of thinking. If someone isn't supporting Romney because they like him and agree with what he stands for and they are only voting for him because they feel they HAVE to be loyal to the GOP, there is no rule that says you have to compromise what you believe in to vote for another conservative candidate. They can still be a conservative and embrace the values they believe in and while supporting Gary Johnson. By doing so its throwing support to someone who is far more electable than Mitt Romney will ever be.

Because honestly, I see most conservatives say flat out they hate Mitt Romney and say "Well he's the only real choice so we'll learn to love him". I think thats silly personally.

 

The GOP doesn't represent "conservative" values and hasn't for decades. Today's GOP endorses "social conservatism" and those are not conservative values.

 

We have obama, an inexperienced, incompetent buffoon and proven liar, without ANY worthwhile accomplishments in his lifetime, or his presidency.

We have Paul, a lifelong CAREER POLITICIAN. That in 3 decades could not get even one of his important issues to become law. That is a career of silliness and FAILURE. He has attracted a TINY lunatic fringe of naive followers. But that is his singular lifetime accomplishment. And Paulobots considered in the big picture MEAN NOTHING. Most are young and will NOT vote. Examine the primary popular voting, Paulobots did not vote.

And we have Romney. He lacks the polished bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of obama, but he HAS a solid lifetime record of success at every endeavor.

So the choices are, A smoke and mirrors incompetent sham. An old man that has never accomplished a thing. Or an experienced executive that has a long history of success.

 

If Ron Paul runs as a 3rd Party Ticket ..Again I say we kick every MN. delegate out of the Republican party for ever.
That means they CANNOT EVER CHOOSE to run or be elected to anything as a Republican since they supported a turn coat .

RINO INDEED.

IN MN that would be a HUGE deal as they stole the caucus and I CORRECTLY PREDICTED this might/would happen.

The Republican party gave Paul substance when he HAD NONE.
NO AIR TIME..NO DEBATE TIME..NO STATE VICTORIES.

Paul people didn't support Bush..McCain or now Romney ..

Move to NV and grow Pot. enjoy the Hookers.

 

On Gary Johnson, Ron Paul commented on Fox News: "I think he’s wonderful, and I think he’s doing a good job and people should look at him and every individual should make up his own mind.” But his campaign manager stated that Paul would not endorse Gary Johnson and there are also technical problems for Paul to be placed on the Libertarian ticket because the nominations for Gary Johnson as President and Judge Jim Gray as Vice President would be almost impossible to overturn. But he could still pursue a third party run for the president with another party and if he does, it will be interesting to see how he shakes up the presidential race.

 

And what were the great things you said about McCain and Palin simply because the GOP picked them out of a hat to go up against Obama. Yeah that worked out real well for you. Seems like if it wasn't Romney who was the GOP candidate and it was Santorum, Bachman or any of them you would be saying they were the best candidates for the job simply because they happened to be picked and "stand a chance" as a result.

 

Evidently you don't have any idea what you are talking about since I have no idea of what you are talking about. IF you can find a post ANYWHERE on the internet where I said any "great things" about McCain/Palin please post them. If you can find anywhere where I said good things about MCCain/Palin, please post a link to them. I certainly don't remember saying anything good about them. Now had they been elected, I'd guess that we'd be FAR better off than we are now, but that is not saying anything good about them. It is a commentary on how miserably b.o. has failed.

What I said about M/P is that they were the sacrificial lambs. That after Bush, The Republicans knew they had no chance so McCain/Palin were throwaways. WHOEVER the Democrats put up, WAS going to be elected. Edwards was the choice, but he stepped on his dick. Next was Hillary but they worried about putting up a woman, even against sacrificial lambs, so b.o. was the default choice.

The Republicans knew when they got creamed in the 2006 elections, they were sunk until the Democrats screwed the pooch. The Democrats IMMEDIATELY did screw the pooch and The Republicans swept the 2010 elections. The difference is that the Republicans understood what their loss meant. The Democrats lie to themselves about the 2010 sweeping loss they suffered. They convinced themselves with lies that it meant nothing. They didn't convince anyone BUT themselves.

 

Uh...the OP says 11/4/12 for his announcement?

 

For 2016 Gee ...

 

.....the same as if they woke up to four years of Romney, because that's what it will be.
Why you prefer one collectivist/corporatist/big government/Globalist/UN loving whore for the banks over the other is a mystery.

 

So you have NO preference since you know it won't be Paul?

obama, a lifetime of ideological nonsense and failure.

Romney a lifetime of success after success.

And a Paulobot thinks that is the same. Ludicrous.

 

I don't care if it's paul.

so?

his policy will be that of the wall street bankers that control the current president, and set his policy.

 

A libertarian does not care if Romney or Obama is president. I could care less.......you can pick your poison, I will take a different path.

 

ITs a typo~

The anouncement will be tonight. However it looks like it will not be a third party run or an endorcement for Gary.

Ron Paul has been a great patriot to this country and a champion for liberty. I give him all the love and gratitude for spreading the message and waking people up.

It doesnt matter what he says tonight, Only that the movement for liberty goes on.

 

He has a record of enacting and supporting legislation that WE DON'T LIKE.

WE DON'T WANT WHAT HE WANTS!

What part of WE DON'T WANT PROGRESSIVISM do you not understand?

What part of WE DON'T WANT KEYNESIANS RUNNING THE ECONOMY do you not understand?

WE DON'T WANT ROMNEY TO BE THE PRESIDENT!

 

Someone gets it! You win the cookie!

 

I don't know where you idiots get off saying a vote for Paul or Johnson is a vote for Obama. More likely, libertarian votes will come from people that Romney couldn't take from Obama, but an honest to God pro-freedom candidate could. Libertarians will take votes from "both sides" (since both major parties squash liberty, in their own way), if the Republicans want fewer of their votes to be stolen by Libertarians, then SUPPORT LIBERTY!

 

40% of Americans now consider themselves independents. No one is nuts about Romney. He gives them nothing to be excited about. He seems clueless about what life is like for the middle class. Obama is a (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

Yeh, I could see people going third party if they had someone they cared about.

 

A better question: How will Romney supporters feel when they realize that THEY helped Obama win 4 more years by picking such a loser?