Why would god create 1500 bisexual/gay species if he hates homosexuality? Part II

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  1. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    1,500 animal species practice homosexuality

    1500 species have been seen engaging in homosexual behavior.

    This goes beyond sex itself:

    A life style goes beyond just having sex.

    Also, how can homosexuality be a choice?

    Crabs and worms lack the #1 fundamental item to make a choice, they lack a brain.

    If 'god' creates all this in 1500 different species, why does 'god' hate his own creation so much?

    PS: if you would like say humans have free will, that does NOT answer the question: if 'god' hates homosexuality so much, why did he create it and implement it in 1500 different creatures?
     
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    Well, just my opinion here... I don't think that God hates gays... I think "some" people hate gays. And when people hate in the name of God it is even worse.
     
  3. AKR

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    Thanks for restarting this thread. I never really got to even participate in my own thread. I laugh at the idea of it being a choice. First, they tell us that humans are the only ones with free will and animals only run on instinct, and then, when it backfires, they tell us that animals have free will as well. Which is it? And funny how certain species are almost entirely bisexual while other species hardly have any bisexual animals in them. Hmmm, I'm sure that's just a coincidence instead of a biological difference based on instinct that changes from species to species.

    And the idea of sexual orientation being a choice is just a joke, in both humans and other animals. To have this stance is basically telling us that, as a man, you could choose to enjoy sucking another man's dick and choose to dislike sex with women. Yeah, you're gay. Congrats.

    And for those that say it's not a choice in other animals but it's ok because they're "just animals," it still makes no sense - creating creatures with the intention of causing them to have gay sex, but hating it when humans do it. Where is the logic in that? How is that setting a good example by creating animals to purposefully have gay sex? That's just stupid. It doesn't seem consistent at all.
     
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    Yeah, the Abrahamic god doesn't hate gays, he just wants them to burn in hell.
     
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    savage-republican Well-Known Member

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    People are animals, got it. I guess it should be survival of the fittest than.
     
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    God does not hate gays.
    The Bible teaches the way back to your spiritual identity and away from the animalistic tendencies or urges and impulses one should not follow.
    To point to the animal world as an example is just ludicrous since animals also smell each other's rear ends and they also eat and/or kill their offspring.
    Of course homosexuality is a choice even if one has a greater urge or attraction to do some thing that is biologically abnormal.
    It's like saying a female had no choice but to give blow jobs because she had the urge or attraction to try that.
    It's a choice..
    Its silly to say someone had no choice in a action they took.
    What are you saying the devil made me do it? lol
     
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    But homosexuality isn't natural.

    /Intellectual bankruptcy and blatant lies
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    You seem very fixated on homosexuality.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    The Bible never says God hates gays. In fact it says to love the sinner, hate the sin.
     
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    Kindly cite the passage in the Bible that says this.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    As are you, you have started far more threads on the subject then I.

    Are you insecure?
     
  12. Tarheeler

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    The passages in Leviticus only says that it is an abomination and the penalty is death. It doesn't say anything about hell.
    And, under Jewish law, the death penalty would have been next to impossible to impose.

    Quite often, stating that something was punishable by death was understood to be a figure of speech that indicated the seriousness of the situation (such as in the case of a child who disrespected his parents). And a lot of other things were said to abominations as well: eating pork and shellfish, cross-dressing, giving an imperfect sacrifice, mixing fabrics in the same piece of cloth, mixing plantings in a field.....

    And the funny thing is that they apply only to Jews.



    I know that most will probably dismiss this since it isn't a Christian point-of-view, but I figured it couldn't hurt to post it.
     
  13. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If one were to fallow in the teaching of religion, one would know God created humans to rule over animals, not act like them. Is a civil rights movement for feces throwers and cannibals to come next?
     
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    No, if we were to follow the teachings of religion we'd run out in the street right now and hunt down and kill all gays because the Bible and the Islamic texts say to kill gays! But we don't, because those books are simply immoral and counter-productive to a healthy, happy world.
     
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    Then it's a racist (or bigotted I guess) book, and should be put in the same category as Mein Kampf.
     
  16. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm actually pro-gay rights. If nothing else, to shut them up already. If an end to the whining is possible.

    I'm just trying to debunk this tactic before it gains any traction.

    Using God to support the gay agenda will only end up with the individual looking like an idiot. Your post backs up this assertion.
     
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    Tarheeler Active Member Past Donor

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    Riiiight.

    So I take it that you believe US law applying only to Americans is also racist?
     
  18. FreedomSeeker

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    "God" is only concerned about one race!? Clearly it's not from "god", then.
     
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    Can you write here that you condemn the Bible because it says to kill gays, or are you less moral than that?
     
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    If I believed that a book was from GOD, and it said to kill gays, but I myself would actually NOT vote for laws that say to do that very thing (I assume he's moral enough to not vote for laws to kill gays), then I'd be so inconsistent and confused that yes, I'd be quite insecure. Unlike a modern Secular Humanist, where there is basically no real difference between what the texts teach and what laws I'd vote for.
     
  21. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a deist. I believe the Bible has as many good lessons as bad. Those who can't differentiate between the two's life will be punishment enough. Bible thumpers and gays don't effect my life whatsoever. In my eyes you are (*)(*)(*)(*) near the same.
     
  22. Tarheeler

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    Where on earth did you get that? It certainly wasn't from my post.
    The Torah applying only to Jews doesn't indicate that God is "only concerned about one race".
     
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    "God's chosen people" is clearly racist.
     
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    Sounds like you can't clearly condemn the Bible for it saying to kill gays. it's a no-brainer, really.
     
  25. Tarheeler

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    You obviously have no clue as to what that means. And you're getting extremely off topic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_a_chosen_people

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/chosen_people.html

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160993/jewish/Are-the-Jews-the-Chosen-People.htm
     

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