Occupy Wall Sreet Plans Anniversay Protest Sept. 17, 2102

Hope this hasn't been posted elsewhere(I searched, didn't find anything). Their plan is to continue attacking wall street. Yet they fail to protest Fannie and Freddie for having huge part in subprime market and foreclosures. I still cannot detemine what this movement is protesting and what they want.

It ticks me off that several news outlets call this movemnt one of the largest grassroot movements in current history, totally dismissing the early grassroots movement of the tea party that protested gov. ovespending that nessitated more taxation as their top issue.

 

There is nothing grassroots about OWS, there is also no reason for it, they're not protesting anything specific and they don't want anything reasonable.
It's an excuse to be criminals and act violent. News outlets that aren't Fox will call it the largest because they want people thinking it's popular because they know Americans are sheep and will follow the majority.
People like CNN and MSNBC like to promote violence because they know that's what gets viewers. That's the sad thing about it all. As long as America loves to watch violent things, they'll continue to promote these blatant criminal actions.

 

This is the 99 Declaration, please don't say you don't know what they stand for anymore.

https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

Each one of these has far more specifics on the link.

 

approx 50% of the 99% pay no federal income taxes, and the fact they pay payroll and other taxes is irrelevant as those that do owe federal income taxes also pay those other taxes. If Citizens United is overturned it will mean denying Unions contributions also, this is according to the Supreme Courts Ruling. They considered Unions and Corporations to be equal type entities, hence their ruling.\

agree with 8,9,16,19,21 and may agree with more with more explanation. You need to add restoring Student Loans to Bankruptcy law especially given that graduates can't find a job and can't therefore make their loan payments, just as others can't afford mortgage payments.


I vote Republican with occasinonal votes for Democrats in my County and State, I consider myself a Moderate/Centrist but cannot vote for Obama as he is far to Progressive and I believe his views are Socialist as is much of the majority of Congressional Democrats evidenced also by their membership in the Socialist Party of America and many also members of the Communist Party.(proven by membership rosters). It is not surprising that the Communist Party of America has supported Obama and Democrat rallies. Obama has continually accepted donations from this Party.

If "Protection of the Planet" includes the Scientific theory of Mankind as a cause of Global Warming", I can only say that scientifically there is proof that the Climate has gone throug major climante cycles since the creation of the Earth. And, while we may be going through a warming cycle, there is absolutely no scientific proof that we can effect a change that would slow the cycle or that we have accelerated the cycle. At this point it is purely a hypothesis. A large number of scientist believe that even if we try the effect will be insignificant. Therefore, until there is scientific, factual proof, I do not see a reason to stop the use of oil and the mining of coal as the alternatives at this time will cost far too much for the average family. When alternative methods become cost effective, I am all for expanding their use and slowily decreasing our dependency on Oil, Coal.

 

By 2102 they will be a long forgotten footnote in a long laughed at failure of a presidency.

 

Bet you dimes to doughnuts that 99% of the occupy protesters couldn't name 5 on that list.

 

There seems to be as many "lists" as there are people to make them. Heres another one:


The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 proposed demands from their website.

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

 

get your pooper scoopers out NYC, the (*)(*)(*)(*) stains of the city are coming back to fling more poopies and yell at your children.

 

You can always tell how threatened the establishment is, by the amount of propaganda you see in response to it.

The tea-party before it was co-opted, OWS, Ron Paul, now Gary Johnson, viciously attacked by the establishment defenders.

 

The OWS are a bunch of punks who deserve to get their collective asses kicked for acting like spoiled children. Funny how they pretend they are owed all these things when they can't even do a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing for themselves. BTW, I've talked to quite a few OWSers. The few I could talk to that weren't drunk or stoned couldn't tell me what they were there for other than to protest the rich. What a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing losers. Can't we ship them all off to Cuba where they can see the end results of what they are demanding?

 

lmao /\

 

Think your pathetic lies can hide the truth of just what a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)bags the OWS consists of? All you have to do is go up and talk to them and it is readily apparent that they are dumber than (*)(*)(*)(*) and usually smell like it too. I have yet to meet one that was interested in debate. Your debate tactics are a good example. Run away.

 

Yes, because when I want a real debate, I start talking about how stinky people are. Here is your sign.

http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

 

So you can defend the OWS record of rape, murder, vandalism, and inability to actually agree on what they are disagreeing about?

How about the fact the list you gave has conflicting points that can't both be accomplished?

Keep running. We know... we know....

 

Why would I engage someone who insists on using shill tactics?

http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

 

there's one good thing about the owS folk. They are the recipients of the public education system run by leftists. consequently...they're stupid. Not anything like the better educated hippie radicals of the sixties that were moderately intelligent, moderately good thinkers and even better speakers although idiots. Still, they should have educated their recruits better. I do see the problem with that though. Doing so would have reduced their numbers.

 

Are you denying that the OWS movement has not been plagued with recurring issues of rape, murder, and vandalism? Really?

 

I love it when the people who are losing the battle just go around clicking dislike on everything. It is like a badge of honor knowing the only real response they could come up with is clicking dislike. Go ahread, pimptight. You know you want to.

 

I'm denying the acts of a few, represent the group. I'm guessing you don't disagree with this idea, as if you do, that would mean you think all Marines are child murdering dirt bags(Haditha).

 

http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

 

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a robot!

 

Yet the OWS by and large doesn't condemn the rape and murder while the vandalism is openly encouraged. Their thug activities are planned and carried out yet you turn a blind eye to it. I expect nothing less. Just pointing it out.

And how about the conflicting goals of the OWS? You know... like spending all kinds of money while reducing the deficit. How do you plan on doing that? Kidnapping the rich to pay for what you don't deserve?

And since when has the OWS wanted to start paying taxes in addition to forcing those who currently pay no tax or get money back to pay their fair share? I had to laugh at that one!

Did you also notice that the OWS is so hopped up on drugs they start repeating themselves?

And how about that living wage regardless of employment? Who is going to work if everyone gets a living wage even if they don't work? The OWS is comprised mostly of those who nobody would hire in the first place, so I can understand how the OWS wants a free ride for the rest of their lives.

I also love the fact the OWS is apparently trying to openly destroy America as we know it. Completely open borders? Wow. What do you think that will accomplish? Think the infrastructrure with all that free healthcare and guaranteed living wage can support the rest of the world? What delusional planet are you all from!

And who wouldn't love the universal forgiveness of debt? What a copout! If you are stupid enough to get into debt, you should suffer the consequences of that debt. Forgiving the debt of everyone would instantly collapse every single economy in the world overnight. Too bad OWS people are too (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid to understand such simple concepts.

Like spending a trillion dollars for infrastructure and a trillion on the environment while cutting the national debt. WTF! Do you guys even know what economics is? Do you understand there is only so much money? Do you understand that you can't spend money AND cut spending at the same time?

I also love outlawing credit reporting agencies. What else would a bunch of dead beat lazy (*)(*)(*)(*)s want but to outlaw the way to track the fact they are a bunch of dead beat lazy (*)(*)(*)(*)s!

And then there is the ultimate bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim from the OWS! Jobs for all! Except here in the real world there is a large segment of the population (the OWS being part of that segment) that doesn't want to work. They would rather live off others while whining about the state of affairs and making completely retarded demands. And of course, all those jobs would be at a living wage so that even a person flipping burgers for a living has all he could ever want. Of course, that burger will cost you several million dollars, but that is another issue...

Feel free to start running. Even I couldn't start to defend the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) demands of the OWS.

 

Your pointing out nothing but conjecture.

We all know that evil butt gnomes live in the rectum of conservatives, and this is why you are so uptight. See this is fun, we will just make things up based on zero factual evidence.

Where do they say this currently?

By this logic of someone said something once so it still must be true, I guess Dems and Reps are all pro slavery. I mean i can show you a quote of both parties being pro slavery so it must be true right?

This would be closing corporate loopholes and subsidies, you know the thing 90% of this country agrees on, but both parties refuse to do.

Did you notice Mitt Romney's magic underwear sticking out of his suit at the press conference today?

I just can't figure out why Republicans are pro-slavery.

I love the fact that Republicans openly sacrifice babies.

Actually if you knew anything about economics you would know that printing money, and writing off the debt are the exact same idea. If we can do one, then we can do the other.

Paid for by ending the war on drugs, and cutting military spending of course dummy.

Where did you read this?

How do you support Republicans, when they openly sacrifice infants, and then eat them?

Who is running son?

 

Yet I can produce evidence to back up my conjecture. You can't. See the difference? Probably not.

YOU said it when you posted the 99 declaration! Apparently you didn't even read your own list. Tagurit also posted a list of demands which I have verified originated from occupywallst.org and were not made in jest.

Well, since you obvioiusly didn't read all the demands, let me refresh your memory. "A Fair Tax Code. A complete reformation and simplification of the United States Tax Code to require ALL individuals and corporations to pay a fair share of a progressive, graduated income tax by eliminating loopholes, unfair tax breaks, exemptions and unfair deductions, subsidies and ending all other methods of evading income taxes."

Like I said, maybe you should have actually READ what the OWS stands for.

Nice response. A shame it does nothing to address the fact many of the "declarations" the OWS posts are redundant.

Read the list and quit running

Read the list and quit running

You can do it, yes. SHOULD you do it? Absolutely not. It will destroy the economy if implemented in any way even remotely close to what the OWS wants. Take an economics course and learn something. Better yet, read up on what happened to Germany when they did just that to "pay off" the reparations the word demanded they pay after WWI. You SURE you are college educated? Most people are aware of the dangers of believing the printing of money or the wanton forgiving of debt as shown by history, but really there is no excuse for a college educated person to not understand the economic lunacy of monetary irresponsibility.

OK, let me get this straight. You want to spend two trillion dollars and pay for it by ending the war on drugs and cutting military spending, neither of which are even close to a trillion dollars. OK, forget the economics class. Try simple math. The "war on drugs" costs around 30 billion a year. The military budget is between 600 and 700 billion. Now, in what world does 30 + a percentage of between 600 and 700 billion = 2 trillion?

Didn't you even read this thread? You think you are the only one who posted demands from OWS? Go to occupywallst.org and you will find that demand there along with lots of others. Tagurit posted an excellent list of proposed demands.

See this? Your reply is a prime example of who is running. Does it address the simple economic point that a living wage for everyone will significantly drive up the cost of producing goods which starts a vicious circle of inflation and adjustment of the living wage to compensate? Nope. You run instead of addressing the very real issue.

You are, junior. Now hit dislike and run away like usual.

 

No, it is more like murdering muslims slaughtering innocent people over a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing book, and the majority of islam agrees to some extent over those murders.

ows are an unorganized joke of pathetic little babies that refuse to better themselves in the greatest nation this earth has ever had. They are nothing more than socialistic parasites sucking the life out of society.

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