The 'New' GOP

So,you would have us all believe that there aren't video's out there showing you GOPBAGGERS shouting in Town Halls,toting guns to a rally-stomping people in the head-- So,There goes your argument right out the window
Bullpucky--We All know the KOCH brothers "WERE" funding you-they kinda kicked you under the bus now that they are trying to outspend Sheldon Adelson-maybe if you whine loud enough they'll send you a plug-nickel.
If I could get you to stop & think for a moment----If the Tea-Baggers were having any kind of effect or influence in the political arena right now-you wouldn't be quietly meeting,you would be out there pushing your agenda with a vengeance,it is a Presidential election,you expect anyone to believe that your just quietly making an impact--face it-you have nothing to crow about (Romney & Ryan) you have no credible candidates on the down ticket,you have no funding,let alone a door to check anybody at,your credibility got "checked" out when you ran lunitics like Sharon Angle & Christine MCDonnell & let's add Todd Akin to the mix now.
Reading all the posts this morning,you would think you guys are ready to have a funeral for your party-(pun not intentional,but pretty pithy non-the-less)(GOP)--

 

Partys like people change over time. As far as Romney winning or losing, we have to wait almost 2 more months to find out, but I do know that the polls can't be correct. Well, correct in as much as the questions that are asked and the people they are asked of...Obama and his minions are flailing about like dying fish on a beach. They see a very likely loss.

 

Why can't Obama run on his record?

o Turned around an economy that was tanking at a -9% rate and shedding 700,000+ jobs a month
o 30 straight months of private sector employment growth.
o 12 straight quarters of GDP growth
o 60+% increase in the stock markets since taking office
o Got Osama bin Laden.
o Saved 2-3 million jobs with stimulus package
o Got Atiyah Abd al-Rahman
o Got Anwar al-Aulaqi
o Ousted Muamar Kadaffi at 1/1000 the cost of the Iraq war
o First president to decrease spending in a year in decades
o Reduced the deficit his first full year in office
o Got us out of the "mistaken" war in Iraq
o Stock markets up 100% since bottom of the recession in 2009
o 4.5 million private sector jobs created since Jan 2010
o Improved US approval rating abroad
o Passed health care reform that will provide coverage to tens of millions of Americans
o Employment rate dropped from over 10% to 8.1%
o Passed financial regulation reform to prevent another housing bubble fiasco.
o Lowest rate of spending increases of any president in modern history.
o On budget deficit has decreased every full fiscal year he's been in office.
o Net creation of the number of people employed and employed in the private sector

 

What about the shellacking of 2006 and 2008?

 

Interesting you say the Reps have no plan when it's the Dems who spent 3 days of their convention bashing Romney and avoiding everything else they've done.

Romney on the other hand has given us a clear-cut list of his priorities and stated that he's willing to be judged by how he performs in each category. Please do show us a similar list of things Barack Obama plans to do to clean up the mess he's gotten us into. (don't look on barackobama.com... it's not there. Maybe Z could dream one up for you? She's good at fantasy.)

 

Again... before Tea Party.

How about a link to your list of Obama's accomplishments? I'd like to see if they wrote these two with a straight face.

o First president to decrease spending in a year in decades
o Reduced the deficit his first full year in office

 

They've changed from the conservative party to the reactionary party.

 

Because we're still in a recession, unemployment is still over 8%, and we're on the verge of another credit downgrade.

 

I wrote them myself.

You never head of these? You mean Rush and Sean never told you about them?

What a shocker. And you say it with a straight face.

Year - Outlays
2009 3,517.7
2010 3,456.2

Year - Deficit
2009 -1,550.6
2010 -1,371.1
2011 -1,362.8

Source: CBO.gov

Maybe if you had more accurate information you'd make different conclusions.

 

We are not in a recession, 8% is a heck of lot better than 10%, and the credit downgrade is courtesy of our Tea Party Republican friends whose stated goal is to get Obama out of office as opposed to protecting the credit of the US.

 

Then WHY all the funeral planning for the GOP-like Laura Imgram-Ann Coulter-Rush-Fox news & all their cronies?Where's the LOVE!!!!
The moderate GOP'S are jumping ship in droves(which pretty much leaves the Grand Old Party back where they were in 2007-with about 14% & dropping)-or using your words "flailing about like dying fish on a beach"I know this because I have been present at my Democratic Headquarters to see this happen.
Yes,the election is 58 days away-I am so looking forward to the debates-you might be expecting miracles from Romney(but,I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you)

 

Yeah, speaking of accurate information:


From the Washington Times re: Obama's speech at the DNC

Mr. Obama was playing fast and loose with the facts throughout his speech, as in his statement that “over the last three and a half years, we have focused on righting the ship … creating 4.5 million new jobs.”

But the Labor Department says job creation during Mr. Obama’s presidency has been several hundred thousand at best. In fact, “Obama is on track to have the worst jobs record of any president since World War II,” says Washington Post Fact Checker Glenn Kessler.

much more on "Obama's on track to have the worst job record since WWII"

Guess if you lie about something often enough, at least your faithful supporters will believe what you say is true. (Hard to imagine you folks are that gullible, but facts speak for themselves.)

 

I do hope you'll vote in 58 days... since the election is 54 days away.

 

And now you know something you should have but didn't. You might consider getting information from more objective and accurate sources.

Obama is 100% correct:

Total Private employment
Feb 2009 106773
Aug 2009 111400
Increase over past 3 1/2 years: 4.627 million

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet [The Labor Department]

The "Washington Times" is one of those sources that is not giving you objective and accurate information.

 

Ok, you're right, should have said very sluggish recovery with fears from some that we're heading towards a double dip. Yes, 8 is better than 10, but it's still not good and because it's still relatively high is part of the reason some are concerned about the double dip.

The downgrade is because no one will take responsibility for the ever present issue of entitlement spending, the GAO and CBO both call the path unsustainable and finger pointing across the isle does nothing to inspire confidence over at Moody's.

 

It would be nice if it we had faster improvement, but like that last two recoveries, after "tickled down" policies that have funnelled most of the growth in income and wealth to the richest, we don't have a middle class with the income or assets to increase spending to power us with a faster recovery.

Still, I personal prefer 30 straight months of net private sector job growth over losing 700,000+ plus a month we had when Obama took office.

The downgrade specifically referred to the debt ceiling debacle and the polarity and refusal of the various parties of the Govt to work together, though it stayed neutral and didn't name names.

However, it wasn't the Dems that refused to increase the debt ceiling that lead to the debacle.

This as also been mentioned as an issue in the continuation of the lower rating.

 

And the entire reason there was a debt ceiling debacle is because of entitlement spending. Unless their is some significant uptick in revenues we're on a collision course to be doing this all over again.

 

Depends on how you look at it. 12 years ago we had a surplus budget with those same entitlements. Since then the major things we've done is cut taxes and gun up military spending and wars.

And they we had this little recession ...

So why would you say it is because of entitlement spending?

 

12 years ago we had just allowed China into the World Bank club, 12 years ago we hadn't gotten a credit card with Central Bank of China, 12 years ago we had more people working and fewer asking for entitlements...this was a bipartisan (*)(*)(*)(*)up.

 

Because revenues were up for various reasons, tax increases, the .com boom, the housing bubble was going full tilt etc. Even if we could replicate those conditions, I'm not sure we should, particularly the bubbles.

An aging population for one thing, and as a result of that rising health care costs.

You don't need to take my word for it, the CBO echoes my sentiments:

The aging of the population and rising costs for health care will push spending for
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal health care programs
considerably higher as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP). If that
rising level of spending is coupled with revenues that are held close to the average
share of GDP that they have represented for the past 40 years, the resulting budget
deficits will increase federal debt to unsupportable levels.

 

None of which has a particularly material effect on why we went from a surplus in 2000 to $10 trillion more in debt.

 

We don't need to. Even with the recession ravaged economy, if the govt collected the same percentage of GDP as it did in 2000, its revenues would be $750-800 billion per year higher over the past 3-4 years, and the deficit problem would largely not have happened. And cutting military spending to 2000 proportionely levels would take care of most of the rest of the problem.

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That is talking about potential funding issues down the road, not why we went from a surplus in 2000 to big deficits today.

I acknowledge that growth in entitlement spending for the boomers will be a problem in the future, particularly since the Govt has wasted the SS trust fund and run up a bunch of debt to fund tax cuts, military buildups, and wars.

But the problems can be address. SS can be put in the black by making it means tested and removing the $110k income limit on SS taxes and make it applicable to investment income as well. Medicare currently is funded with a 2.9% FICA tax. That tax can be increased, but ultimately a single payor or provider type system would help reduce costs.

 

The american taliban version of the GOP is clearly the greatest enemy America has ever faced, clearly.

After Obama is reelected and the stupidest reps in American history, i.e. tea party reps, are ousted, we will finally go back to normal.

 

Yorr chart is a flat out lie. Hopefully people recognize that.

 

Now that's funny. You might not agree with what Romney claims to have accomplished in MA... I don't know (or care) since I don't live there. If it's a lie, I'm sure you can prove it, right?



Obama's 'arrows' are 100% FACT

Romney's 'arrows' are 100% CAMPAIGN PROMISES

So exactly what is it you're calling a LIE about that chart?

Or did you just blurt that out in a moment of Obama love?