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I know you remember the started democratisation of Libya. And we know which the way of that democratization is end.
I know you remember the started democratisation of Libya. And we know which the way of that democratization is end.
I am glad that the Americans began to realize that democratization efforts of despotic regimes in the Middle East, in Muslim countries leading to chaos and anti-American hysteria.
Well, the true democracy does work, but not this time. Assads a slippery guy, but his opponentsre worse. They are not knights without fear and without reproach. Check the staff. There are a lot of wahhabis guys from al-Queda, Muslim bros, guys from armed band(terrorist groups) Some of these people showed their worth in the North Caucasus (Chechnya, Dagestan), Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Concerning Syrians well, it's really nice to be able to pick between the better of two bads.
From the video, it looks like they are copying the good ole USA, slaughtering unarmed people for democrap.
If you want to read a honest approximation to truth see: Global Research, Voltairenet, Larouche, etc... the rest is sold to multinationals of communication.
Have you read the Libyan Consittution before Khadafi. (1951-1969) It guaranteed equalityunder the law regardless of creed, tribal affiliation, ethnicity or economic status.
I wouldn't be surprised. I'd prefer that we stay out of Syria. I think Libya showed us that Gadhafi wasn't really that bad compared to his opposition.
Well, it appears that a lot of the rebels were ex-Al Quida, and lately, it does look like the focus of this new government is Islamist. Gadhafi wasn't particularly Islamist and seemed to be developing normal relations with the West before we helped remove him. While it is true that liberals recently won the election, I wonder how long their reign will be.
Well it seems the principle- “he’s son of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), but he’s our son of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)” 's a wrong way lately. Russia-USSR and US got a lot of same “sons” and some of them sooner or later tried to screw their patrons. And I'd prefer that Russia stop get oneself into the same sh^t as well.
Well it seems the principle- “he’s son of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), but he’s our son of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)” 's a wrong way lately. Russia-USSR and US got a lot of same “sons” and some of them sooner or later tried to screw their patrons. And I'd prefer that Russia stop get oneself into the same sh^t as well.
I have seen evidence that some of the rebels are AQ and there has been alot of speculation that that the attack on the american consulate may have been a targeted attack by an AQ group using the protest opportunistically. Ghaddaffi was okay for us, but long term where does that go? How long can you prop up a dictator? Is it not better to cut your losses when it becomes clear that the despot is losing support? Do you continue to support that dictator knowing that he is attempting to shell his civilian population? The alternative to the no fly zone was a massacre or a continued civil war a la Syria, which in the long run is most harmful to a country? Because you have to try to get on with whatever regime is left, Ghaddaffi was in serious trouble even before the no fly zone there was a good chance he was gone anyway. Do you continue to support him and gamble on that those who fought to free themselves will forget that you continued to prop up the dictator. The no fly zone at least gave a clean sweep across the southern med. Even Algeria has had reforms (though not regime overthrow). Yes Islamists have done well in elections, they have credibility with people but if they can't govern, if they fail to deliver on jobs and food, they will find themselves in trouble, I think we have to accept that islamists are going to be a major feature of arab governments for the foreseeable future. And if turkey is anything to judge by Islamist government does not have to be that scary, yes a secular liberal democracy is the ideal but that's not really a realist outcome (Not saying it will never happen I just think I will be an old lady before it happens). Ireland gained independence and despite not officially adapting Catholicism as a state religion banned divorce, abortion, contraception and blasphemy. Turned important state functions such as education healthcare and the care of orphans over to the church and allowed families to imprisoned women who had brought "shame" on them in religious institutions. Turning to a religion for guidance is not really that unusual in the early stage of democratic self governance. It is a stage it can be grown out of.
I understand that countries can evolve out of theocratic tendencies, but it seems like most occasions where a dictator is overthrown in the Middle East lead to even worse governments afterwards. Iraq is ok now, but it's still becoming a pawn of Iran. Syria will likely become even worse after Assad is overthrown. Libya has potential, but I've learned to keep my expectations low for the Middle East and North Africa.
