Romney: Nearly half 'believe they are victims'

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  1. Chaz21

    Chaz21 New Member

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    If I were you'd be right. I'm part of the group he needs the 5-10%. And this video does nothing to sway me towards him. Quite the contrary.
     
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    I'm beginning to think that they let him win the primary knowing he'd be beaten and then they'd never have to deal with him again.
     
  3. GiveUsLibertyin2012

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    Have you even been to other blogs,twitter?
    The people that completely agree with what Romney stated seriously outnumber those that disagree.
    Romney told the truth.And I seriously seriously doubt this will damage his campaign while the middle east is burning and our economy gets crappier.
    The majority of Americas are sick to death of their tax dollars going to able bodied free loaders.And incase you were living under a rock ,the U.S. just got another credit rating downgrade.Another from Moodys soon to follow.This will keep Obama on the defense all the way up to November 6th and Romney on the offense.
     
  4. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they don't pay federal income tax. But they still contribute to the ameican economy. They also pay for many of those benefits directly in payroll taxes or do you think that social insurance and unemployment insurance are free?

    I suggest you actually read what Romney said. It was an arrogant dismissal of nearly half of all americans, and this guy is presidential material. This guy is going to be a president for all the people with an attitude like that?
     
  5. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When are you going to get it through your head that the 47% don't pay any federal income tax?

    They have NO skin in the game.
     
  6. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He intendes to get the 47% off their asses and back to work. reversing the FDR thang of light up a camel put down your shovel and sit on your ass.
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Romney told the truth?
    do you really think that 47% of americans dont' take personal responsiblity and manage their own lives? that they all feel that it their right to "entitlements". that they are all slobs who sit around waiting for a welfare cheque?

    150,000,000 of your fellow americans are freeloaders and they all vote for Obama?

    Its just not factual. Its a lie. An arrogant lie and speaks volumes about Romney's attitude towards the middle class and poor of America.
    I don't think you can explain it away by the conservative blogs you frequent being in support of Romney's vile attitude. You seem to believe him because you are sick and tired of 150,000,000 able bodied freeloaders taking your tax dollars. Perhaps you should actually gain command of the facts, before you go spouting prejudicial politically motivated fantasies.

    AS for the middle east burning, I guess you don't recall the cartoon riots. The economy getting worse is moot, particularly when your guys have been obstructing everything in congress and amusing themselves with passing token bills they knew weren't going to pass. That isn't the way politics is supposed to work, but the republicans have determined that absolute non cooperation on any economic issue is imperative to regaining the presidency. Remember the fully paid for jobs bill that Obama championed and the congress killed even tho the CBO said it would create at least 2 million jobs?

    Or the fact that the credit rating was as a direct result of *********s going around yelling that going into default would be a good thing for the country? And the second downgrade was concerned with the middle to long term debt and the seeming gridlock in congress to address the issue.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn't aware that the unemployment rate in American was 47% and that they were all democrats.
     
  9. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    of course they have skin in the game.

    Payroll taxes are imposed by the federal and all state governments. These include Social Security and Medicare taxes imposed on both employers and employees, at a combined rate of 15.3% (13.3% for 2011). Social Security tax applies only to the first $106,800 of wages in 2009 through 2011. Employers also must withhold income taxes on wages. An unemployment tax and certain other levies apply.

    Property taxes
    are imposed by most local governments and many special purpose authorities based on the fair market value of property. School and other authorities are often separately governed, and impose separate taxes. Property tax is generally imposed only on realty, though some jurisdictions tax some forms of business property. Property tax rules and rates vary widely

    Sales taxes are imposed on the price at retail sale of many goods and some services by most states and some localities. Sales tax rates vary widely among jurisdictions, from 0% to 16%, and may vary within a jurisdiction based on the particular goods or services taxed. Sales tax is collected by the seller at the time of sale, or remitted as use tax by buyers of taxable items who did not pay sales tax

    Estate and gift taxes are imposed by the federal and some state governments on property passed by inheritance or donation. Similar to federal income taxes, federal estate and gift taxes are imposed on worldwide property of citizens and residents and allow a credit for foreign taxes

    All of those contribute to the economy of the country.

    Unemployment is at 8% and even if we take the highest "real rate" of 15%, perhaps you can tell me where the other 32% of the freeloaders are?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    isn't there still ongoing investigations of the melt down?
    closing loopholes in the tax code requires bi-partisan cooperation. He'll do it, itll just have to wait until he's re-elected.
    You wrongly attribute the decline in average net worth to Obama. It was the evaporation of a few trillion in home equity and the stock market plummetting.
    The middle class is disappearing largely attributable of the enormous decline in well paying manufacturing jobs. Service jobs don't pay nearly as much.
     
  11. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Mitt thinks he's going to be a god with his own planet when he croaks. Maybe he was scouting for location?
     
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    Romneys response should be a comprehensive listing one by one of the myriad of ways people live off the govt. It would probably take too much time, just to research it would take years. He should make a point to include fraud as most govt benefit systems are rife with it. Just watched a show on msnbc about medical fraud, estimated by a fed investigator at $80Bil/yr. For comparison Canada spent 137B on healthcare in 2009, in total. I've seen estimates in Ohio anywhere from 10-30% fraud in state medicaid. That would be somewhere between $2-6B/yr. The fed investigator said Medicare Part B was so complicated that they(the investigators) hadn't figured it out yet. With Obamacare coming we will at least see a new growth industry. Obamacare fraud.

    The argument is always couched in hungry children and poor elderly. When in fact there are a multitude of ways to live off the govt. I thought this was one of the more interesting that I've seen...

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1326829/pg1?regp=bm9fMTM0Nzk0ODgwNw==

    Or one of my personal favorites, a neighbor of my father's cabin gets paid to shoot deer in his alfalfa feilds. I asked him why, he shrugged and said "don't know, went to apply for permits to thin my land they told me I qualify for something". Gets to keep the deer too.

    And while we're at it let's include agribusiness, banks, auto companies, solyndra, govt employees(25 & done, lifetime defined bennies, must be nice), a number of foreign countries that don't like us, govt official's cronies, illegal aliens, tax attorneys, shall I go on?

    What scares me the most is more and more people seem to be falling into the "I'm entitled" mentality. Does not bode well for the future. I guess it all ends with one guy working for $26Tr/yr and we can tax him at 90%(rich bastard!) and every else can just hang out.
     
  13. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Wow! Why ensure that people have food? Let them starve in the streets. When they get hungry enough they can eat rich people. What was Jeffery Dahmer's favorite recipe?
     
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    Quite the contrary, a quick perusal of your past posts indicates virtually every one, on any issue, to be in support of the Democratic position. Nah, itÂ’s highly doubtful that you are part of some swayable minority. Sorry, not buying the subterfuge.
     
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    Jewish like to play the victim card, and anyone who claims to be a vitem of this world's economy is just playing fish.

    For all you termites that will say I am anti termite. I have nothing against jewish people, I just dont agree with their capitalizing on others for profit.
     
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    You better watch your mouth Mr. Romney. If you keep this crap up i might actually start liking you. And i could be wrong but im pretty sure me liking a politician is an indicator that they are nearing political suicide.
     
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    It's 22% and they surely are mostly democrats.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice deflection. You know (*)(*)(*)(*)ed good and well what we are talking about are federal income taxes. You can't even stay on subject. Typical liberal.
     
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    when are you gonna get it through your head that I do not care, people should only be taxed for money earned above the poverty line (rich or poor alike)

    and yes, everyone pays taxes, just not everyone Federal pays income taxes (because they do not make enough to pay)

    somebody has to do those jobs, that is their service to this country

    ...

    good video on this link....

    "World of Class Warfare - The Poor's Free Ride Is Over"

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/t...-class-warfare---the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over



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  20. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then I take it you would favor the Fair Tax? http:www.fairtax.org

    You're kinda late to the party.
     
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    I am pretty sure Obama did not win his first term with just minority votes.
     
  22. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    If you want everyone to pay then increase their pay.

    BTW, when are those billionaires going to pay?
     
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    Still can't stay on subject. The billionaires pay through the nose. Every corporate dollar is taxed at the highest rate in the world. Then they have to pay personal taxes on their dividends and bond interest. It's no wonder they try to get out of as much as possible. I sure as hell try to. I'll bet you do too.
     
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    They are what put him in office.
     
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    Chaz is a Poseurcrat; the ones who claim to be Independent but are actually a Democrat at heart. Think Joe Lieberman.
     
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