Republicans Need To Face Reality

Lol where is your proof that minorities are leaving democrats and coming to republicans. Im not talking about token blacks and mexicans running for office. Im talking about your average minority voters.

In 2010 the polls and even the media showed that there was going to be a huge republican gain two years after obama. Well its two years later and im not seeing it in the polls or media. I am not seeing it on E streets either. Just here by yahoos like yourself. I know there is still a large percentage of the population dead set in getting rid of obama bjt not tbe big push lkke 2010.

the one good thing republicans have got going for them is he voter suppression laws and laws that inhibjted democrats from doing massive third party voter registration drives. So there are lower amounts of democrats registered. But a lot of these laws have been put down and there is a massive push by liberals to get people registered. Meanwhile republicans went all acorn in their push for voter registration.

 

It's precisely the "token" minorities that should alert you that the tide is changing. People don't like to be pigeon-holed and they don't want to be victims so they're moving in droves to the Republican party and embracing conservatism. As a side note, I'm not white, I'm of Native American heritage and so is much of my family. Yes we are outnumbered as many American Indians have grown up being told they are victims, but I see the tide changing even among my people. We don't want to live as victims any more. The very fact that you call minorities who are Republicans "tokens" shows your deep contempt for the minorities you think to champion. You think minorities are too stupid to think for themselves and make educated choices, that we should just accept being victims all our lives and not throw off the shackles of poverty, indignity, and a lack of self reliance. You're typical of the Democrat party, hating minorities, but insisting you're their only hope.

 

I'm an American of a Mexican background. The only other Hispanics I've debated who defend the democrats mercilessly is the flat out secular progressives( which is very very VERY few of us). Most Hispanics I debate either get converted before my very eyes or they seriously start doubting and questioning themselves.

The decades long democratic liespeak campaign is running out of steam. The only folks who still believe these soulless cretins are people who don't have time to open their eyes.

 

Yeh, you don't know "right wing". Right wing is minarchism, primitivism, anarcho-capitalism and other similar systems of anarchism, libertarianism and other schools of thought that would like a bare bones government with increased liberty at the expense of safety nets.

Right wing is wanting to "End the Fed". Right wing is wanting to gut DHS. Right wing is wanting to end the drug war. Right wing is even wanting to privatize the police and other services. Right wing is wanting to be able to forget the government doesn't exist. Right wing is more freedom not less.

You just know neocons. They're like you guys, only grumpier and with different pet agencies and different rights and choices they wish to take away.

 

I agree. sometimes patience is the key: if I would have been continuing to date prostitutes, I would never have found my beautiful wife

 

What has Obama done to try to get money out of politics? Or for that matter, what has he done for the poor, for the working class, for minorities, for the anti war platform he ran on, or anything else? Has he protected our civil liberties by at least voting against NDAA and the Patriot Act?

What has he done?

 

And what color is the sky in the world you have made up for yourself?

 

Based on what? ODS? Their unbridled hate for the man? What makes you think they are 'motivated'?

romney isn't winning for one reason and one reason only....he's romney.

The SS romney.

 

Lol you obviously do not have a clue what i think or what my background is but have no problem inventing it anyways. I ask for proof and thjs is what you give me? Well thanks for your reply. But i suggest just coming out and saying its all your opinion and not based on any facts.

In my opinion based on polling and the fact that during the republican primaries minorities did not show up in force and there is no data stating that they are switching to the republicans. Minorities are with the left this election but may not get out and vote. Not voting is not the same as voting republican.

 

That before or after Univision did that expose on Fast and Furious :>

 

Actually minorities did show up in force. The only problem is, the PRAVDA news networks you watched (CNN, MSNBC) deliberately turned off the cameras when minorities came to speak and panned the audience in such a way as to avoid those areas thick with minority attendence. You're a victim of your own ignorance.

 

43 straight months of 8 percent or higher unemployment, more than 23 million Americans struggling to find work, 47 million Americans on food stamps, our national debt over $16 trillion following the President’s four $1-trillion-plus annual budget deficits, and an anemic 1.7 percent in second quarter GDP growth.

Another Obama big fat failure, except this one cost a whole lot of people their homes after giving them hope. Their only hope now is to kick the Amateur out of the White House. Of the 3 to 4 million homeowners who were SUPPOSED to be helped Obama's big idea actually helped 390,000. This is real life my liberal friend.

Jobs and the economy have been the single most important issue for Americans from every major poll for the last 3 years.

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

Obama's "recovery" has been anemic at best.

Obama GDP Jan 2009 to Sept 2012




Reagan GDP Jan 1981 to Sept 1984​

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

Obama's a fail on jobs and the economy. Please give me a compelling reason on Americans top priority why Obama will be re-elected?

 

^^^All of this and a bag of chips.

 

o Turned around an economy that was tanking at a -9% rate and shedding 700,000+ jobs a month
o 30 straight months of private sector employment growth.
o 12 straight quarters of GDP growth
o 60+% increase in the stock markets since taking office
o Got Osama bin Laden.
o Saved 2-3 million jobs with stimulus package
o Got Atiyah Abd al-Rahman
o Got Anwar al-Aulaqi
o Ousted Muamar Kadaffi at 1/1000 the cost of the Iraq war
o First president to decrease spending in a year in decades
o Reduced the deficit his first full year in office
o Got us out of the "mistaken" war in Iraq
o Stock markets up 100% since bottom of the recession in 2009
o 4.6 million additional private sector jobs created since Jan 2010
o Improved US approval rating abroad
o Oil production up for the first time in decades.
o Passed health care reform that will provide coverage to tens of millions of Americans
o Employment rate dropped from over 10% to 8.1%
o Passed financial regulation reform to prevent another housing bubble fiasco.
o Lowest rate of spending increases of any president in modern history.
o On budget deficit has decreased every full fiscal year he's been in office.
o US domestic oil use decreasing
o Net creation of the number of people employed and employed in the private sector

 

become politically enlightened.

If I had a dime for everyone who was killed by someone who thought they had become politically enlightened, I wouldn't need to work another day.

 

You are assuming that if Obama wrecks the nation badly enough, people will come to their senses and vote for a conservative candidate in 2016; sort of a 21st version of how Jimmy Carter led to Ronald Reagan. I think the problem with that is that if Obamacare isn't repealed in 2013, it never will be. That will permanently damage our health care system. You are also assuming the electorate won't be hooked on the heroin of Obama phones, extended unemployment, and all the other goodies which inoculate people from caring if the real economy is doing good or not. Already you can see that people have started to become immune to bad economic news (of which there has been plenty the past month). As long as the checks keep coming, people can afford to tune out and not worry about how the economy is really doing.

 

I think it's Liberals that need to face reality. This nation can't afford all the give aways they are asking for. Yes, they may win the election. I mean it sounds good that someone is going to give you all this free stuff. Why not vote for them? But it's all going to come home to roost sooner or later. You can't expect to get everything Liberals offer and have almost half the nation not helping to pay for it. Many of the biggest payers are giving up their citizenship and leaving the country, rather than pay more. That only puts the burden on the dwindling middle class.

 

If you are the 1%, it is Romney who is giving away free stuff for trillions more in tax cuts for you.

That is why they've poured hundreds of millions into his campaign.

Of course, we can't afford that.

 

For two years Libs had total control of our government. If tax breaks for the rich was so important, why didn't they do something about it then? Why not cut some of those deductions that a person like Romney got? You know why? Because rich Liberals want them too.

 

Great Recession and Republican opposition in Congress.

 

Romney's tax proposal would cut the tax rates for EVERYONE, and would eliminate many tax dodges used by the rich. The net result would be that the middle and lower classes would pay less and the rich would pay more. Isn't that what you want? Nothing he has said would increase taxes for the middle class--Biden and Obama are lying.

Now, you want tax increases? Obamacare will raise the taxes for everyone--either directly penalties or indirectly through higher prices for everything.

Who is hurt most by high gas prices???????? the poor and middle class. Gas has doubled under obama. Why do you support a guy that has ruined the economy for YOU.?

 

more lies, he had the house and the senate for 2 years, he could have passed anything he wanted. But what did he pass? obamacare, a program that 65% of americans do not want.

What a great success!!!!!! Are you fricken blind?

 

Completely false, as I've demonstrated before.

As Romney himself so effectively pointed out, 47% don't pay income taxes, though many pay FICA and excise taxes.

Romney cuts trillions of taxes for the uber rich, but he isn't cutting the taxes the 47% pay one dime. Consistent with his statement that he doesn't care about them.

 

It's not a lie at all. The reason Obama didn't raise taxes was because of the Great Recession and as a quid pro quo to get unemployment benefits extended.

I didn't say anything about any great success. Are you fricken blind?

 

LIBS most definitely did NOT have total control of our government for two years...

as Jennifer Granholm said:


President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support his agenda. He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken's election in Minnesota and he didn't get seated for seven months. The President's cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania's Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties. That gave the President 59 votes - still a vote shy of the super majority. But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission. So while the President's number on paper was 59 Senators - he was really working with just 58 Senators. Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 - but only in theory because, Senator Byrd was still out. In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy's seat in September. Any pretense of a super-majority ended on February 4, 2010 when Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held.

and that completely disregards the presence of DINOS like Nelson and Lincoln, who, while they may have been Democrats, were certainly NOT Liberals.