I wonder why this is happening in a Chritstian country?

And what are you doing Stroll?

 

Reporting personal abuse when it's hurled at me by the bucketload.

An apology for your relentless escapades wouldn't be out of place.

 

I don't think Christianity and violance have anything to do with each other. It's the inequality I believe creates crime. If you have enough money and live in peace and can afford to live in a nice place, it's less likely that you'll start commiting violent crimes. I think people who are violent, are violent because of a survival instinct or adaptation to their surroundings not because they are Christian or any other religion for that matter.

I think that very few people are born violent. Most people are peaceful but the surrounding make them violent. Whether it's a war or something else. So to lower violence I think you have to lower inequality.

 

Proof that you are not interested in debate, but rather running made-up scenarios in your fantasy land. I rest my case.

 

This thread was a response to this thread in which our temporarily-former colleague Nutral tries to conflate atheism with condonation of rape.

 

Of course. Please explain this to Nutral.

 

Well it's not that Christianity is violent. It's an idea it is not able to perform violence. Humans however, naturally hate and fear those who are different, and one of the biggest differences is religion. Humans will look for any accuse to kill those who disagree with them. They do so mostly in the name of god.

 

Interesting, I assumed it was the other way 'round. The 'atheist' nation in the other thread (France) isn't even 'atheist' but has a religious majority population. Go figure!

 

According to the Bible, Christians can be slave owners.

So, you don't agree with the Bible on that specific. Right?

Where on earth you got that from what I actually said, I have no idea. Regardless, how would you explain the considerably higher homicide rate in the US compared to the UK, when the percentage of Christians per capita in the US is higher? And, how would you explain the long term decline in the US homicide rate, as the percentage of Christians per capita also declines?

Err, no, I haven't mocked any of that.

But as I have not stated my positions on these specifics, how can you know what they are?

Actually, I am discussing the topic, and asking you what you think. While you are calling me names, and telling me what I apparently think.

I am looking on the bright side, while you are looking on the dark side.

If you would care to discuss the topic, please go right ahead. If OTOH you would continue posting in the same obnoxious fashion, please don't bother embarrassing yourself further.

Dusty

 

What passage of scripture says that Christians can be slave owners?

 

"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

 

Correlation=/causation

 

The UN sees nothing wrong with prostitution.

[h=1]U.N. report calls for decriminalizing prostitution[/h]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/24/un-report-calls-decriminalizing-prostitution/

The world's morals are changing.

 

Well, one of the reasons I think is the tolerance of abortion as an acceptable way of dealing with ones problems. Abortion is a form of violence, so it is not so surprising that we see so much violence everywhere else.

a timeless fiery sermon condemning abortion:
[video=youtube;tQwRsEzH-Hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQwRsEzH-Hs[/video]
(I'm not entirely serious here)

The real cause of the rising levels of violence is a culmination of all the unprecedented levels of mass immigration in the last few decades, and prolonged high levels of unemployment combined with survival level wages. The Fed's "quantitative easing" policies have also been making the price of housing unaffordable for many Americans; when they print all that money they are buying up hundreds of billions in equity on residential mortgages

 

Refer to the scripture I quoted in the post you replied to, and specifically the words I highlighted. We know that according to the Bible, Christians can be slave owners, because the words ''If your master is a Christian'' are in the Bible. If it was not possible for a Christian to own slaves, then those words would be both pointless and misleading. So unless you can explain why they are not both pointless and misleading, we can conclude that according to the Bible, it is possible for a Christian to own slaves.

 

Where is it found in the Bible?

 

Where is it found in the Bible?

 

So now that you have shown a scripture from the OT which shows that under the old covenant slaves were permitted by the Israelis but nowhere do I see any mention in that/those scripture regarding 'Christians'. So where is the scripture that says Christians can have slaves or be slave owners?

 

Violent crimes will always be around because humans have that free will. Even during the time of Jesus Christ the greatest violent crime committed was his crucifixion. The USA itself as a Christian nation have been very successful in containing criminality such as the spread and expansion of the KKK back int he 1940s. The Federal government step forward and defeated the KKK and again in the 1960's civil rights movement the Federal government step forward once again to protect the black Americans and instigated integration.

In a general population of 100,000 there would probably be only 1 or 2 violent crimes, Americans are still safer to walk in their streets compare to other places such as Iraq, Pakistan or Afghanistan.

 

You're safer in the US than in Afghanistan? What a comparison. lol

 

But you have not proven his comment to be in error.

 

Why should I? Missed the point? lol

 

Then your ridicule of his comment was just something for you to do and had no purpose? Something that is not there cannot be missed.

 

Definitely, we the Christians, Muslims, atheist and all people are safer in the USA than in Afghanistan or in any Muslim countries that is why thousands of Muslims are fleeing their countries to settle in the USA. Women don't have to walk like mummies, girls can have education, boys don't have to worry to be recruited to become suicide bombers, men don't have to worry to leave Islam.....Yes Mr. stroll we are all safer in the USA!

 

Nice bit of nationalist and anti-Islam propaganda there, pal.

Pity you need to compare to a civil war ravaged 3rd world country to make your own look safe by comparison. lol