Hostess had too Many Unions and Too Many Ungrateful Union Members

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  1. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is ignorance here. At least you can recognize that if not your butt with both hands and a map.

    The role of union leadership is to get the best deal for their members. If those things are in a contract it is because management said "yes." Repeat that with me so we can all understand. MANAGEMENT SAID YES TO EVERYTHING IN THE CONTRACT.

    One more time with feeling!

    "MANAGEMENT SAID YES TO EVERYTHING IN THE CONTRACT."

    Management has all the power. Management can say no and if the workers strike, management can fire them and hire new non-union workers.

    Once again, I ask you.

    Show me a single contract with any union EVER, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE where the union forced management to sign.

    A management decision at Hostess specifically aimed at eliminating union jobs put this company on the path to failure. No union "thug", "boss", or even junior member made the decisions. Management did. Since then the union and workers have negotiated several wage and benefit cuts to keep the company afloat.

    I say let it go under and put the union pension fund first in line for each and every asset. Let the vulture capitalists start taking these things in the shorts and they'll be less inclined to destroy companies like this.
    MANA
     
  2. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

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    All of them are working for $1 per year.
     
  3. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

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    No, that is not true. Puffin is completely correct: bread and confection cannot be delivered on the same trucks...I saw that every week.
     
  4. Montoya

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    That is a flat out lie.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He'll probably end up getting a better paying job anyhow; can't say that I blame him for taking that attitude; I'd probably feel the same way.

    If Romney were President he'd have most likely shipped the jobs over to china. So either way they'd have lost their jobs. :)
     
  6. Double L

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    Hostess filed for bankruptcy as far back as 2004. The financial problems existed before the problems with the unions. Because they were in a financial crunch, they had to make cutbacks to their budget and that sparked the union outrage. It was competition and a financial crunch that caused the situation with the unions. The unions did not cause Hostess to close down, they just sped up the process.
     
  7. sammy

    sammy Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly, but if so, it just provides more proof that Unions destroyed hostess.

    Hostess still had union thugs working there years later that were too lazy to go look for another job.
    They would rather strike and take down a good company, it's called progressive-ism.

    Welcome to Obama's party where hard working folk loose their jobs!

    More Obama crap to come in 2013, 2014,...
     
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    & Blah Blah Blah
    & Anyway !
    Why should some Unionized Gutsucker ever be allowed a Living Wage
    ....................................................... for making Hostess Twinkies ?


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    ..................................... "Let them Eat Cake"

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  9. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So people like you can inhale them and bloat up. :)
     
  10. Double L

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    What I'm saying is that the financial problems came before and created the union problems when wages were cut. Therefore unions were not the root of the problem, they simply sped up the process.
     
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    Leftist loserism fosters ungratefulness, unthankfulness, unkindness, ungenerosity, stingyness, and a whole host of negativity. There is no good in leftist loserism, but people vote for it. Unfricking believeable.
     
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    Hostess-----------------another company destroyed by greedy unions pure and simple. Now 18000 people are out of work. Great work union leaders.
     
  13. Eadora

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    & Blah Blah Blah.




    God forbid that the great unwashed should ever be allowed
    a LivingWage in the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave

    I think you will find that
    the GREED you so Self Righteously speak of, will be
    found with the Exec's who's pockets will be lined with
    under the table bonus'$, rather than with those who's
    jobs are headed for Mexico or some other Third World
    cheap labor Cess Pool that has been created by
    an out of control GREED motivated Parasitic Capitalism

    The American Sheeple had better Wake Up to the Fact
    that they have been sold out by a Cannibal Culture that
    has devolved to the point where it has begun Consuming itself

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    Good Luck to the Low Man on the American Totem.


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  14. Montoya

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    Management should have taken wage cuts and given back. This is 100% their fault. Down with Hostess!
     
  15. algranny

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    You don't know union bosses well, they caome from the main office and do not lack for luxeries, unlike those that lose their jobs. They get paid all along to the next place!
     
  16. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The liberal stance can be summed up easily.

    Separate people into classes and tax them differently so you can make them fight each other.
    Screw America and any concept of equality of treatment. You must have the communist ideal of equality of outcomes.
     
  17. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Ever notice how many times somebody tells us that "the American [whatever] had better wake up to the fact
    that [blah, blah, blah] "? Guess what? I don't feel like waking up! In fact, I much prefer blissful ignorance. Is there really so much that is so monumentally important that we just have to be woken up so we realize it? I don't think so!
     
  18. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    You should have taken
    The Ancient Greek Aphorism - "γνῶθι σεαυτόν" - "Know Thy Self"
    ......................................................more to Heart "darckriver"


    It is not "blssful ignorance" that you have preference for here -
    It is rather "willful Ignorance" that you seem to prefer to wallow in

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