Egypt: Man sentenced to 3 years for blasphemy

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  1. Jason Bourne

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    Looks like free speech is the next casualty of Morsi's dictatorship and his handlers in the Muslim Brotherhood..

    Three years for insulting religion. That's just plain insane.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...ion-Blasphemy-sentence-in-Egypt-sends-a-chill
     
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    Well, it's a muslim country now. You can see why those Coptic Christians are cowering in fear.
     
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    Freedom of speech, there is no such concept in Egypt.
    Face it, it is a western concept. The notion is not understood by Islamists.
    You have to understand that people arounf the world may use the same word, but mean totaly different things. Democracy is such a word.
    In some places, it means freedom of the indevidual, in others it means tyrani and individual enslavement.
    Guess where Egypt is.
     
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    While the religion has a number of things that concern me, Islam seems to become much worse when combined with Arab (or African) culture.
     
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    Iranians are not Arabs nither are Afgans.
     
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    Why just islamists? In Lebanon you can get charged for insulting Christianity.
     
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    And do three years in prison?
     
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    its terrible but the Egyptian people need to be dealt with directly not suppressed by dictators

    Giving Islamists just causes to rally around is not going to help reduce their power and numbers

    not in the long run anyway
     
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    Can you ?
    Please provide the link of the last person who was sent to jail for insulting Christianity in Lebanon.
     
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    really....................

    so did the court find him guilty or not guilty when he exercised his free speech in Paris cafe?

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    The guy is an atheist who was accused of making critical remarks about religion. His sentence: Three years in prison. He's out on bail pending appeal but such arrests have taken a sharp upturn since the Muslim Brotherhood's shill Morsi installed his dictatorship.
     
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    In Ireland, blasphemy is prohibited by the constitution and carries a maximum fine of €25,000.






    In Israel, blasphemy is covered by Articles 170 and 173 of the penal code.

    Insult to religion
    170. If a person destroys, damages or desecrates a place of worship or any object which is held sacred by a group of persons, with the intention of reviling their religion, or in the knowledge that they are liable to deem that act an insult to their religion, then the one is liable to three years imprisonment.

    Injury to religious sentiment
    173. If a person does any of the following, then the one is liable to one year imprisonment:
    (1) One publishes a publication that is liable to crudely offend the religious faith or sentiment of others;
    (2) One voices in a public place and in the hearing of another person any word or sound that is liable to crudely offend the religious faith or sentiment of others.

    The law is traced back to the British High Commission "The Abuse and Vilification (religious invective) Order No. 43 of 1929", enacted in efforts to suppress the 1929 Palestine riots. The order contained the language: "Any person who utters a word or sound in public or within earshot of any other person that may be or is intended to offend his religious sensitivities or faith can expect to be found guilty and eligible for a one-year jail sentence."




    Malta

    Instead of a law against blasphemy, Malta has laws against the vilification of religion, and against immorality. Enacted in 1933, Article 163 of Malta's Criminal Code[35] prohibits vilification of the Roman Catholic Apostolic Religion, which is Malta's religion. Vilification of Malta's religion makes the vilifier liable to imprisonment for a term from one to six months. By Article 164, vilification of any cult "tolerated by law" makes the vilifier liable to imprisonment for a term from one to three months. Article 338(bb) imposes liability upon anyone who, "even though in a state of intoxication, publicly utters any obscene or indecent words, or makes obscene acts or gestures, or in any other manner not otherwise provided for in this Code, offends against public morality, propriety or decency". Article 342 provides:

    In respect of the contravention under article 338(bb), where the act consists in uttering blasphemous words or expressions, the minimum punishment to be awarded shall in no case be less than a fine (ammenda) of eleven euro and sixty-five cents (11.65) and the maximum punishment may be imprisonment for a term of three months . . . .

    In 2008, criminal procedures were initiated against 621 people for blaspheming in public.




    The Netherlands prohibits blasphemy by a provision in its penal code. Article 147 punishes (by up to three months in jail or a fine of the second category (i.e. up to €3,800[37])) anyone who publicly, orally or in writing or depiction, offends religious feelings by scornful blasphemy.




    Poland

    While Poland's penal code makes no reference to any sort of blasphemy law, it states that "Whoever offends religious feelings of other people by publicly insulting an object of religious cult or a place for public holding of religious ceremonies, is subject to a fine, restriction of liberty or loss of liberty for up to 2 years". The article has been used by pro-Church politicians and activists on numerous occasions, whenever they felt their religious feelings had been offended in some way.

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    Cite a case from any of those countries where someone convicted of oral blasphemy was sentenced to prison.
     
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    Israel’s seems to be about destruction or property id agree that the others are not acceptable as well and just focusing on Egypt or other mostly Muslim nations is a double standard
     
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    Israel
    "Any person who utters a word or sound in public or within earshot of any other person that may be or is intended to offend his religious sensitivities or faith can expect to be found guilty and eligible for a one-year jail sentence."
     
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    No it's not. Cite a case from any of those countries where someone convicted of oral blasphemy was sentenced to prison.
     
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    Cite an Israeli case where someone convicted of oral blasphemy was sentenced to prison.
     
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    awe sorry my mistake in still ok with the property damage bit but your right there just as bad
     
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    Egypt is so third world.
    In Greece you only get two years for blasphemy .
     
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    "Egypt: Man sentenced to 3 years for blasphemy"

    that's what happens when the law is based on the ten commandments

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    who else do we know that wants laws based on the ten commandments...

    "The Palin Principle – Bible trumps Constitution"

    http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/201...nt-to-base-law-on-bible-and-ten-commandments/

    "Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments." - Palin


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    They are just stupid enough to go to jail for all the other reasons, but not for this.
    In short, you fail.
     
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    Care to provide a single case of a Muslim being prosecuted for insulting Christianity in Lebanon?
     

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