Arpaio ~ Armed posse's to patrol schools

The policy that is the topic of this thread is barbaric. I have said why. The only training these people have is with the use of a firearm. They don't know how to deal with groups of kids. Not only that, but it wouldn't accomplish much if there was someone who was determined to do something like this.

 

Once again, condemnations but no ideas of your own to protect these schools. What's it take to get you Liberals to say, I would do this.........?

 

Only 2% of children gunned down in the US are in school at the time they are gunned down. When was the last gun fatality in any Arizona school?

This old codger should stop prancing around in the media spotlight and focus on crime prevention.

 

Maybe so, but basically the only mass murder of children are when they are in school. We are talking about how to protect these schools from that happening again. Any ideas from the Left?

 

No one is asking for gun battles. We just want to have someone at every school armed and trained that may be able to stop a nut with a gun.

 

The Right's "racial profiling" means if the kid is BROWN, OF COURSE he is "reaching for a gun". and the posse man is legitimately "in fear for his life". This "fear" gives him an absolute RIGHT to shoot the kid pre-emptively!

Who KNOWS what kind of deadly crimes this maybe-illegal kid could have ALREADY committed?

 

Interesting how Liberals rant and rave about "bullets being sprayed everywhere" and other dire scenes of blood in the streets, yet it hasn't happened.

 

It would seem you can't beg a Liberal to come up with a suggestion of how to protect these schools. They complain about these shootings, and Conservative ideas of how to stop them, but don't have the slightest idea of how to stop them themselves.Except taking all our guns away from us and they really don't want to come out and say that.

 

Why do liberals hate kids ?

 

Wow, it is Liberals once again bringing in race to a subject where it isn't needed As always when they can't add anything to the subject, lets throw race into it.

 

Well, we cannot ignore that a minuscule percentage of children are gunned down in school. The vast majority gunned down are gunned down elsewhere. So, it follows that remedial measures are far more needed elsewhere. If elsewhere were as safe as statistics indicate that schools are, it would be a vast improvement. So, the place to start is where most children are tragically gunned down, not with the exceptions that make the lurid headlines for publicity seekers to exploit. How do we make everywhere as safe for kids as are schools?

 

Ok, so will quit worrying about protecting the schools, if the Left stop bringing up why we can't stop these mass murders in schools. Lets talk about the other large murder of kids, although it might only be 2-3 a day like in Chicago and in LA., any ideas of how to stop those? They seem to mostly come from drug or gang killings. I'm sure the Left must have some ideas of how to fight these killings.

 

Arpaio's idea is bad. I have said why. Playing the "liberal" card isn't going to change the fact that what he is proposing is bad.

 

I don't want to see some black kid killed by some over zealous vigilante.

 

I think any extra protection should fall w/in the responsibilities of uniformed police officers. I'm sure it wouldn't be very hard to find someone willing to pick up overtime for standing around a school.

 

Why did you bring color into it? Has there been any Blacks accused of mass murdering kids at school?

 

I'm sure they would love the extra duty. But cities are crying broke now. Paying tens of police to guard schools would kill bugets.

 

I don't want to see ANY kid - regardless of the skin color - killed by anyone.

Quit being so overly dramatic about Sheriff Joe. He's been a sheriff for yrs and knows what he's doing about protecting the kids.....

 

Odd.

Its is Sheriff Joe and his fans, including the ones on this site and Marine1 himself, who constantly insist "racial profiling" is a legitimate way to police society and maintain order.

Are you suggesting that Sheriff Joe's "posse" will throw that principle aside as they troll the school hallways monitoring both legal and illegal children in schools?

 

Sorry, I wasn't aware that death differed from state to state. Turn a bunch of redneck morons loose and that's what you can expect.

 

Since they introduced Orcas, that's when.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/01/orca-injured-seaworld-san-diego_n_1929151.html
http://www.seaworldparks.co.uk/seaworld/index.htm

 

I said I liked this post. Sorry - hit the wrong button!

 

Law enforcement officers are trained. No one has suggested putting untrained individuals in charge of providing security at the schools.

As was noted though it might provide a very limited layer of security but it is more show than anything else. I was reading a story from a teacher where they have had four armed guards at the school for quite some time but she didn't believe it protected her or her class which was over 1/4 mile from the admin building. As she stated a gunman would walk into her room and kill everyone before the armed guards could arrive on the scene. The law enforcement officers would be far more "show" than anything else and a cost/benefit analysis would argue against doing it. We can't afford put enough law enforcement everwhere that a possible crime such as mass murder can occur. Law enforcement isn't about preventing crime but instead is about capturing criminals and bringing them to justice.

To be completely honest some like to mention Columbine where there was a law enforcement officer but that didn't prevent the murder. Of course the "rules of engagement" have changed. That officer was under orders to not intervene and waited for a SWAT team. He could have done something but didn't.

 

I never said racial profiling is a legitimate way to police society and maintain order. What I said was why are people so shocked when most of those illegals arrested are Hispanic, when about 90% of illegals coming across our border are Hispanic and we are on the border of Mexico. Who would you expect the majority to be, Chinese? Africans?

I think Sheriff Joe and I both made it very clear, they are talking of stationing deputies outside the schools, not inside. You want to stop these mass murders from getting inside, not wait till they're already in and start a gun battle with kids and teachers all over the place. I don't know how many times I have stated that, but I know it's been at least twice before.

 

Like much of the governmental ostentatious security pretenses, Arpy's Army is for show, to create a placebo effect.

Whilst children are victimized by gunsters everywhere in the US, albeit far less often in schools than elsewhere, they are certainly not being gunned down in Arizona's schools absent the government deploying legions of shootists, and that state of affairs will likely persist even if all educational facilities become indistinguishable from maximum security penitentiaries (except for the average height of the inmates.)

Some feel safer if someone else's grandmother is subjected to a strip search at an airport, and some parents will fret less about their kids' safety if they are convinced that armed government agents are deployed everywhere to guard them, and that yet more accidental shootings do not ensue.

Apparently, such gestures by the State are a comfort to some people, regardless of the cost to the taxpayer.


So, if Arizona wants to foot the bill, why should anyone elsewhere care?





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