Arpaio ~ Armed posse's to patrol schools

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    This is Arpiao's style, real tough. I wouldn't be surprised if some people actually like it that the kid dies in this video. They are so angry.

    [video=youtube;wv2PwrhFzT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv2PwrhFzT8[/video]

    Martin Anderson Boot Camp Death
     
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    mikezila New Member

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    those may or may not be actual illegals, but they're in custody for human trafficking. they are the coyotes.
     
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    what does FL have to do with AZ? :confuse:
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's amazing how little you people know about Arpiao. Prisoners aren't treated like that. He makes it tough on them by putting them in tents when the jails are full. He doesn't turn away any offender because there is no room. He cuts out the stuff they don't need like coffee, dirty magazines. He took away their television but the courts made him give it back, so now he limits the channels they can watch, like the Phoenix Counsel meetings. He put them in pink underwear and cut their meals. He has them working cleaning up roadways and parks. They are not treated like these boy camps in your video. He wants to make it so uncomfortable for them that the won't want to come back in his jail. That might not be like what Liberals want, but that's what most of the people in Arizona want. It's time to quit coddling these criminals and make it so nice for them that they don't mind being caught again and having the state supply their every needs.
     
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    Sea World has whales? when did that happen?
     
  6. precision

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    You people are missing the point. I said it's his style. That video is a product of a mentality that places too much emphasis on violent coercion to solve problems. Sometimes violence is needed, but because of anger, this mentality places an over emphasis on it. The solution that Arpaio is putting forward would result in the death of an innocent kid. Kids say and do stuff that will make you angry. You put people who are already angry in schools with guns and they will end up killing one of them.
     
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    Legal Workers Line Up for Restaurant Jobs After Sheriff Joe Raids ...


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    Restaurant Jobs are easy compared to picking lettuce or other such laborious work. ... well, didnt know about the "raids" till i read this, go joe. ... 600 jobs that were given to illegals in just one place. ... to conspiracy and admitted that he hired hundreds of people who he knew were in the country illegally." ...



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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The police are well trained regardless of the fact that Arpaio is a racist nutcase that would have served better in either the Gestapo or KGB. I don't see a problem with the police visiting the school campus but the belief it will stop mass killings if false. It won't stop them in schools nor will it do anything related to mass killings outside of schools.
     
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    He doesn't use violence on prisoners except those that won't conform to jail house rules. They aren't forced to do any of the stuff being shown in that boy's boot camp film. That has nothing to do with the Sheriff's office.
     
  10. precision

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    I agree that it won't stop them. However it could provide an additional layer of security. The point is that you can't put people who are not trained on how to deal with people in a situation like that. To do so is to expose kids to an additional risk.
     
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    the purpose of PR is to get the word out. just just to the voters, but the criminals too....then hopefully, the sheriff won' have to deal with them. the purpose of what happened in FL is nothing of the sort. it was what happens when jailers go overboard to make jail uncomfortable. Joe just takes away comforts, FL made it abusive. nothing like that happens even in the tent jail. inmates don't get PT'd to death. they dont' even get PT.
     
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    Again you are missing the point. He wants to put people with guns, who are not trained on how to deal with kids, into schools. Having them armed means that they project the idea that deadly violence can be used against someone who opposes their authority. That violence has the potential to be misused against a kid who does not deserve to have that type of violence used against him. Even the police, who are trained, are guilty of misusing violence in this way sometimes. What to speak of someone who has no training at all. Kids, especially adolescents, can be real jerks sometimes. What Arpaio is proposing is not wise at all.
     
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    That video demonstrates what can happen when people in positions of authority over children misuse the power given to them. Arpaio wants to put armed people, with no training on how to deal with kids, in a situation where they could potentially misuse their power to kill one. What he is purposing is therefore extreme and barbaric.
     
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    That's not the kind of animals the Sheriff is taking in. It's dogs and cats that have been abused, like kicking them where they have broken ribs. One dog had his head cut open and had it stapled closed. Cats and dogs that have been shot with guns or arrows. Horses that were being starved to death. These are the kind of animals Joe takes in. I know you Libs would love to play down what our Sheriff does and make him out to be nothing but a racist. But your not fooling us that live here and knows what he does. I can't believe that people can be so against him when he does so much good. Just pissed I guess because he is taking future Democratic voters away and sending them back where they belong and opening hundreds of jobs for Americans. You Lib's idea of right and wrong is amazing.
     
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    You don't know what your talking about.
     
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    That isn't what he wants to do at all. He doesn't want to put them in the schools. He wants them outside the schools to keep these shooters from ever going in. They are trained. It wouldn't be their place to try and change the conduct of kids going to the school. Their job would only be to keep the school safe. Now if they saw kids fighting outside the school, I am sure they would intervene or call the proper authorities.

    Why not tell us what you would do. You seem to have all the answers, even though most of them are wrong.
     
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    You don't have any idea what it's like to deal with kids in an environment like that. You need to have people who are trained and who are screened to make sure that they can psychologically handle the challenges of being in such a situation, if they are to weld the power of deadly force.
     
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    They will be in a situation where the where the deadly force that they weld could be used against a kid. As such it is of great concern. Over and above that, the only training that they have is in the use of a gun. That's not sufficient for being placed in such an environment. I have said why.
     
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    The toxic mix is gun free zone laws and violent mentally ill people , influenced by a violent progressive media industry, allowed to remain free.
     
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    The toxic mix is a society of conflicted people who express their bitter feelings by electing politicians, such as Arpaio, to implement barbaric policies like putting untrained people with guns in schools.
     
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    Barbaric policies? Would you like to point out some of these barbaric policies? Please tell us what is your idea of keeping these schools safe from these mass murderers?

    You must be crazy to think these deputies wouldn't be given aditional training.
     
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    Has Arpaio checked-out his posse's to make sure they're not Libs on meds like Lanza was ?
     
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    Come now, listening to what you Libs are saying, I can't believe that one would be caught dead trying to protect the law.

    I listen to all of you condemning those that have given their ideas of how to protect these schools, but when I ask what you all would do, I get no answer from any of you. It's easy to put down other's ideas, but when you do, you need to be able to tell us your idea of protecting those schools. So far it seems, none of you are willing to do that. Why is that?
     
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    You mean Arpaio doesn't have access to dear leader LaPierres' careful detailed dossiers of its NRA members to include every aspect of life of it's members and especially provided by Big Govt. ... especially medical and psychological reports that may indicate Libs on psychotropics ?
     
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    There you go again with your put downs. But as usual, no ideas of your own as to how you would handle it.
     

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