‘US, Russia plunging into new Cold War’

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  1. Jack Napier

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    It is only your narrow view of the world, and your failure to take into account as to WHO the past masters are at the false flag, on top of all else, that causes you to say so.

    If you were a little more prepared to take that all into account, then sure, you may start to see it differently.

    Your idea that Iran will retaliate for the cyber attacks on them, are what is absurd.

    Did they retaliate when Mossad murdered their scientists, or are you going to tell us now that they had nothing to do with that?

    In fact, Iran were remarkably restrained + dignified, something both the US, and that little punk state could learn about.
     
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    There is no absolute certainty that Iran will retaliate. It is merely a distinct possibility, as I am speaking in terms of statistical probability. With this being so, yes, it is absurd to claim that there is a grand network of elitists ready to raise a false flag to start a conflict that would surely end in MAD. It is clear that there is not enough correlation, past, present, or future, to prove or even legitimately imply projective causation. With regards to the Mossad and the murdering of Iranian nuclear scientists, what you should know is that the agents themselves did not murder them. They trained dissidents from the People's Mujahiden of Iran to do so.
     
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    Going back to the nukes thing.

    Call it alarmist if you wish, but these days, I believe it is even possible to build a nuke device that would literally fit inside a briefcase.

    Not sure what kind of damage that could do, in theory, a lot I would imagine, and it could literally be put anywhere, even in this day and age, you cannot guard against that, the state are lying if they say they could. Now, you or I could not make one, we do not have the materials, or the skills, but, we are not trying to, we do not have the motivation.

    I know it would take certain skills, but there are probably scientists for hire, like anything else, who could do it, maybe, and I am sure the materials could be sourced, if one were determined enough, you can get almost anything.

    I really do not think this is a stretch, it can clearly be done, by anyone that was motivated enough, and spent the time developing the right contacts.
     
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    Okay, yes, technically that is true, but it is much the same thing.

    Mossad only have about 1200 of a staff, and that includes drivers and so on, so clearly they simply do not have the bodies to carry out all such things, personally, that is not how they set up, most of the time. Sometimes they do it directly, other times through a proxy, but either way, it is still a murder squad, and, to be honest, they should be treated as a dangerous foreign agent, and placed under arrest, and all their sub agents.

    Imo.
     
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    America is facing the problem that Rome was facing. We are to big for our britches. and we are spread too far too thin in too many countries. USA= World police... aka Bullies. i don't blame America. but its the truth
     
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    so what movies did he make that said 'All non Jews are evil'

    or are you the proven propagandist hear?
     
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    While it is not the only cause, issue surrounding the missile shield hasn't helped relations:

    To be continued...
     
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    Continued...

     
  9. Jack Napier

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    Here.

    Not hear.

    Sort of hard to take you seriously, when you do that.
     
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    Bit harsh on the Romans.
     
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    Mossad did the right thing in murdering those scientists, if the alternative was war, and thousands if not millions of innocents were killed. Just imagine if the U.S. did not have a law against assassination, and was able to kill Saddam and his sons instead of invading, how many lives would have been saved? :eyepopping:
     
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    So then, Greek Orthodoxy also supports murder. Are you sure this cult needs such exposure in the Internet ?

    Not without a sense of humour, however. :mrgreen:
     
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    We shall have to agree to disagree.

    Had two Jewish scientists been the victims, Spielberg would be making a film..
     
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    So you favor war then where thousands will be killed, instead of having responsible people assassinated? Lot's of logic there, especially since they started and were most prevalent in the Middle East. Wasn't there an Arabic group known as the 'assassins'? :confuse:
     
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    Probably! :grin:
     
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    When the missle shield was first suggested, Russia was surprised that the U.S. would care what the Eastern European nations such as Poland wanted, in deference to a greater power like Russia. The 'stupid' one in all this is of course Poland, since they are the ones that will get the brunt of a war should it occur, but try telling them that. Poland did contribute troops though and supported the U.S. in the wars, so it's not easy to turn them down when they ask for something. A few years ago South Korea, Japan and the Phillipines wanted our bases out, and that was perfectly okay with the U.S. since they cost quite a bit...but to the U.S.'s dismay, China began pushing her weight around over the South China seas and so they all asked us to stay because they wanted more clout in the negotiations.

    Since our President and politicians are elected, they must bow down to pressures from the groups that support them...so we have besides Israel, pressure from the Cubans, Eastern Europeans and others. One of the reasons for Clinton's stupid policy of entering the Kosovan war was the pressure from the Eastern European Catholics, who were adamantly against Serbia. Germany also supported Croatia and Clinton respected Germany's views in foreign policy even though in foreign policy they are idiots. They caused the wars in Yugoslavia by recognizing Croatia's independence.

    Holbrooks and Albright are Jewish and as I said their lobby at the time was aligned with the Turkish one...and Turkey supports all its Muslim brethren in the Balkans, so of course they would want us to interfere militarily. Russia knows all this, but it will give you an idea of what's going on and why we keep getting involved. It's tough being a superpower. :confuse:
     
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    Big difference between missiles with nuclear warheads on top, designed to kill 10s of thousands of innocent civilians and missiles designed solely to kill other missiles.
     
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    Considering the numbers of innocent civilians killed by ' erroneous ' bombing and drone strikes - and their concomitant CIA apologies- who with any sense would trust the US of AIPAC to hit the target district, let alone accurately select a silo. Still, there wouldn't be anybody left to apologise if that happened, would there. Do you have any other naive, pseudo-patriotic and civilisation-terminating schemes to support ?
     
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    As usual, you don't have a clue about what you babble on endlessly about. The US missiles are designed solely for taking out missiles in flight.
     
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    Lol...Classic.
     
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    Ummm, right. Do you actually believe what you just wrote? It's very easy to change the use of any weapons system.
     
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    But the missile shield program has been a historical sore point between Russia and the US.

    I did an earlier paper on the Cuban Missile Crisis. Essentially the Russians see any US presence in their backyard as an affront to their sovereignty and foreign/defense policy.
     
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    Classic trout mask response void of even a shred of substance
     
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    Sorry, I genuinelly thought you were joking.
     

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