‘US, Russia plunging into new Cold War’

There are a great many gas finds in the Eastern Mediterrean, and it has aroused anger with the one nation that has no natural resources; Turkey. The Israeli gas deposits also extend into Cypriot waters, and Turkey threatened to attack Cyprus last year if it went ahead with its drilling. The U.S., E.U. and Russia said that Cyprus had every right to search for gas, and the Turks began harassing them by placing their war ships between the Cypriot and Israelis waters. In turn, the Israeli jets began harassing the Turkish ships.

Well the U.S. couldn't do anything about it since Turkey is in Nato, so come Russia. The Russian ships that left their northern port did so in order to be outside of Cyprus when the results came in...with the blessings of the U.S. This was about the time that the Syrian problems started so it was assumed they were there because of Syria. They were not.

Now to go even further. There are also large gas deposits south of Crete, as well as in the Ionian sea, but Turkey managed to convince Libya not to come to an agreement with Greece regarding the territorial waters unless all of Greece's neighbors are in on the deal. Turkey has also managed to persuade Albania to challenge Greece's rights in the Northern Ionian Sea. They also stated that Albania consists not only of the territory it now covers, but also some that is now part of Greece and Fyrom (Macedonia). Turkey has also chimed in and is now claiming over one hundred fifty Greek islands in the Aegean, and what is funny is that the richest people in the world live on the first island they mentioned.

Anyway the international intelligence agency said that Greece will have to be prepared to fight off an invasion in the Aegean. Because of the threats and the dire economic situation in Greece, Israel has been having large maneuvers in the air with Greece over the Aegean and mainland, and the Russian ships have been going in and out of ports in the Aegean. Things are really heating up.

 

Essentially capitalists are motivated by their need to accumulate as much profit as possible over the shortist time frame as possible, even if as a result the system and all that holds it together by way of nature and the environment, are destroyed in the process. The capitalist economic system and the unbridled free market that underpins it, is the mode by which this end point is satisfied. Capitalists compete aggressively against each other with the aim of grabbing as much of the pie for themselves as possible via the mechanism of the nation state. Marx, in this context, rightly referred to capitalists as a band of warring brothers who will be their own gravediggers. It's the competitive logic of capitalism that led to WW2 and will lead us to WW3 if the system isn't stopped in its tracks and replaced by democratic socialism. Warfare, therefore, is the "logical" end point underlying the capitalist economic system. It's not a Jewish conspiracy as you claim.

 

You took no account of a single thing I wrote.

 

Yes I did. 2 per cent of capitalists at the top of the pyramid are the problem for the remaining 98 per cent. Yes, many are Jews and yes AIPAC determines policy. But AIPAC consists of mainly Christian Zionists, NOT Jews. I can't decide whether you are genuinelly misguided or not.

 

Does it?

Richard Fishman - Ex Director (Jew)

Founder Isaiah L. Kenen (Jew).

President- Michael Kassen (Jew).

It is for the Jews and by the Jews.

Any 'Christian Zionists' are just used as willing idiots, tis not they who are in charge!!!!!

 

Orthadox and Jewish Serbs suffered genocide at the hands of the Catholic Croats. The clergy was involved and there were many "forced conversions". The vatican was not only aware of this genocide but helped the perpetrators escape after the war.

While your example has nothing to do with "atheism .. my example has everything to do with religion.

 

But it’s also apparently enshrined in law if what you told me in your earlier post is true even now you’re showing yourself to be one of those individuals

i know people who are gay a friend 3 members of my family by blood none of them made me want to be gay became i knew they were homosexual that’s insane
Knowing people are gay or hetero sexual doesn’t make you gay or hetero sexual
This is clearly persecution mixed in with a lot of bull (*)(*)(*)(*)

Not hiding that you’re gay is not proselytizing homosexuality

Saying Im gay. That is not proselytizing homosexuality

Asking are you gay? That is not prosletyzing homosexuality

Asking some one of the same gender if they want to have sex? That is not proselytizing homosexuality

Saying hey you should become gay is proselytizing homosexuality and is kind of stupid

This is persecution discrimination and hypocrisy and a lot of dishonesty

The best thing for homosexual’s bisexuals and heterosexuals who like freedom and fair treatment to do is to stand up to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s who try to make you hide who you are and the kind of lies that are in the post im quoting

 

i did so a while ago you have done nothing but doge and ignore

Now please give me the names of those Spielberg movies that portray all non-jews as evil

 

"...capitalists are motivated by their need to accumulate as much profit as possible over the shortist time frame as possible..."

Taxcutter says:
Centuries of business law, both statutory and case law, indicate that is their fidiciary duty to their shareholders. Failure to do so gets you fired and sues, maybe even jailed.

 

so that you didn't contradict yourself, you have first to decide whether Russia's production is overpriced or cheap... next you have to learn some Russian to judge for youself because, obviously for censorship reasons, you wouldn't find a source in English to give an actual info on the life in Russia, so here you go - http://sdelanounas.ru/

 

Why do I need to learn Russian?

Their principal export - natural gas - is becoming less price competitive every day. The US and Israel intend to start exporting LNG at a price that is half what Russia sells their gas for. Presuming that it is properly refined, natural gas is natural gas. $10/DTh gas is overpriced in today's market.

What astounds me is that US oil men who have been to the Russian gas fields east of the Urals tell me that the Russians characteristically do not put gaskets in their flanges. As a result everything there leaks gas like crazy. This probably doesn't help the price they have to charge for gas. It isn't a cold-temperature thing. US (Alaska) and Canadians in Arctic condition have been putting effective gaskets in their petroleum and gas pipeline since the earliest days.

Their No.2 export - weapons - compare poorly to US-made (or European-made) weapons. The Turks took a S-400 air defense system because of low price, but for their high-value targets they chose the US-made Patriot system. Considering that the S-400 doesn't appear to work very well, if the Turks paid anything at all for it, the S-400 is overpriced.

As their share of energy sales dwindles do to excessive price, what alternative do they have to becoming an economic backwater?

 

Of course not. But people think it like a cold, something you can catch.

Could be worse. Not so long ago, it was deemed as a mental illness and a crime.

Homsexual people do not bother me, one way or the other. Does the idea of two men make me feel a bit puke? Yeah, I guess. But I never give it any thought, unless the topic crops up.

In short, I do not see it as either good or bad. Any more than I see a crow as good or bad, for being a crow.

 

but Russia doesn't live off her oil & gas export. Russia's resources are owned by foreing investors.

there are many things you Americans won't understand about Russia, and your local media doesn't help this at all, instead creating myths, one sillier than the other.

only if you watch military ads too much, the USA is good at advertising, whereas things are quite different - http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20121230/178488437/First_Borey_Class_Nuclear_Sub_to_Join.html , http://en.ria.ru/science/20121227/178432916.html , http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20121109/177314449.html , http://stardefense.blogspot.ru/2012/12/russian-army-to-get-new-sniper-rifles.html , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Russia , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada_Granta

 

Foreign investors, ha ha, no prizes for guessing who they are going to end up being...

Seriously, two questions. What were all the Russian oligarchs doing, before they suddenly all seem to come into the public eye?

Two. Most of these Russia oligarchs are Jewish. Why?

 

You both seem to miss the point!
Genocide is the tool t keep the masses in fear!
Be it American Indians that are slaughtered, 6 million Irish people starved to death, when Ireland was the biggest exported in Europe, assisted by a papal bull, or Coraots or Serbs, or Iraqis or Iranians, or Afghans to mention few, its the same reprobates on top using one against the other!

You'd think learning history would be important, at least it would stop the degenerates doing the same time and time again.

But one thing for certain...... if anyone talks about genocide it can only be about the Jews, 6 million in WW1 and 4 million in WW2.

Only, the files containing all this information as regards who died and how..... is in vaults that no-one not even a historian can view.

Regards
Highlander

 

“Russia doesn't live off her oil & gas export.”

Taxcutter says:
They certainly don’t live off exporting Ladas.


“…your local media…”

Taxcutter says:
What does my local media have to do with the fact that the Russian oil and gas industry doesn’t use gaskets in flanges?



“…only if you watch military ads too much”

Taxcutter says:
Don’t need to watch military ads. All one has to do is see what junk the world’s losers leave scattered around their battlefields. Russian made weapons. AK-47s. T-72 tanks. S-400 air defense systems. Crashed MiG-21 fighters. All junk.

 

Yer heid is strengthened by the amount of bone it contains! You must have strong neck muscles, solid hey.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russian-warships-head-for-syria/5317477

Just remember, a little thought can go a long way in protection of ones family, yours I'm sorry to say will need to be self sufficient!

Regards
Highlander

 

"Yer heid is strengthened by the amount of bone it contains! You must have strong neck muscles, solid hey."

Taxcutter says:
Clever, but it doesn't refute the narrowness of the Russian economic base.

Let me clue you in on something the skipper of that Russian ship KNOWS.

He knows for a stone cold fact that a US submarine has a targetting solution on his ship. Whether Hussein Obama "green lights" the sub is debatable but the solution is still there.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada#Countries

that that you took it all at face value and failed to give it some thinking to find a reason to it before jumping to conclusions.

AK-47 was and is the best assault rifle ever and not to be excelled by anything because it has defined the very idea of assault rifle all the way, but if you like, here's some more for you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-107, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-104

S-400 is an ok weapon, but needs to be manned by a well trained personnel, which takes some time.

MiG-21's don't crash in Russia, and as to why they crash elsewhere - ask the pilots who crashed them, maybe they had been paid by someone from USA weapon sales world lobby.

 

PS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29K
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA

 

Aye .... those perky Russians, the haven't any intelligence...... only American Red Necks are supplied with the ability to weight up all those facts from Fox news media outlets.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/30/280840/russia-to-get-latest-nuclear-submarine/

It runs using an elastic band ..... honestly!

Like a lamb to the slaughter..... coming your way soon!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/terror...-the-history-of-americas-death-squads/5317564

If your reprobates can do this to other nations what can it do for you!

For what your about the receive ....... then spout your keich!

Regards
Have a nice day...... not too many more to come!

Highlander

 

And this is today ........

Now in the Fifties and sixties .......they really did murder Americans .... but don't fret, the were poor Americans so that doesn't matter....... does it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0dZ_hvrWM&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RMgYU8FaE&feature=player_embedded#!

Waken up!

Regards
Highlander

 

There is one possible future scenario, that I doubt many would even consider.

To be fair, it was not my idea but suggested to me, and having heard the person out, I realised that yes, it is possible, not definite, but possible, an option, shall we say.

Let me try to explain the premise.

As I went into before, much of the gentile world, and our pathetic politicians, have been encouraged to think only in the short term. Those that do not do this, who are not that way, sadly tend to be pushed to the side.

The mindset of organised Jewry or international Jewry has not encouraged that mindset among their own, rather, they (for themselves), broadly work together, as a cult would do, but they tend to think decades ahead, sometimes much more. That is not a put down, but a fact, based on all my readings, and observations.

It is both of those things happening at the same time, which lends itself to international Jewry having the upper hand, in most matters. This does not mean btw, that when it comes down to it, they care about all Jews, on the contrary, as per history, if a % of Jews needed to be dispensed with, for political gain, they would do so, in the blink of an eye. Most likely sacrifice those deemed not to be Zionist, or some such thing.

In purely strategic terms, the long term thinker will usually win out, against the short termist, that is logical. Since the gentile world cannot demand that Jews go back to a short term minset, what we can do is lose this fairly recent short term mindset, in our own society, and leaders, and be long term thinkers, as we used to be, when we produced the best of men.

And why did we do that? Because our society was one that lent itself to men who were long term thinkers, and who when they wrote, at least did so in earnest, and not because they were in the pocket of someone. Men whose arguements and philosophy you may or may not have been taken by, no matter, the fact is that they did have one, and there was often real substance to it. Today? Soundbites, rudeness + rhetoric, passes as political discourse, and sometimes even 'news'.

Because Jews think long term, and because Jews will only maintain something for as long as it benefits them, the moment that thing ceases to do so, or does so less, or looks like it may have run a natural course, there is almost nothing that the Jews would not engineer, that they would not be later prepared to destroy. And another edge I think Jews have on their thinking, is that they realise it is best to milk something as much as you can, but, in the end, accept it has a shelf life, and when it gets to that...move on.

This would include Israel. As a concept, it has been a benefit to Jews, and specifically Jewish elitists, rather than Joe Bloggs Jews. That is why it exists. We will not get into all the ways it does, ethical or otherwise, suffice to say it does, and that is why it exists.

But, the real brains behind it, again, not the common or garden Jews, are freaking strategists.

They play chess at breakfast, while a US President chokes on a Pretzel for recreation.

And, because they are strategists, they cooly realise that even Israel has a shelf life, BUT...they can use even the end of Israel, for the next chapter of their furtherment.

For one thing, they will be aware that Israel may have once been able to rely on Rothschild monies to sustain it, and sure, there are still some 200 families that do, in practice donate, but they alone cannot sustain it, which is why you see how IPAC coax all the money from Americans.

As much as they will deny it and seethe, without those things, it could not manage.

So, you see right away, that in the long term, it is a project that is going to keep bleeding and needing cash.

The strategic Jews know that this is not a forever thing, and that tides change. All it takes is for some of the sources they rely on to say no, or cut it off, and they would be in trouble. And they realise that this day will come. So, being logical, they accept that, and factor it in, to their long term goals, or options.

They are also not stupid, and can see that when world opinion reaches its most critical of Israel, and it is about a third there, Israel will be politcally indefensible, again, in both cases, they will have realised this, and will have planned to bale long before it gets fully to that stage, imo.

I think we are already seeing tiny clues. What Kissinger said just last year. They could choose to do it in a benign manner, and milk the positive PR, that is to say, no more Israel, by way of them trying to look good, and deciding on one state, in which all can live. For sure, this would get almost world support, and if the Jews drove it forward, then it would certainly be better than all the Hasbara they muster.

So, that is one way it could be done. But there is another, more hawkish, darker way. If those I spoke of decide the project has reached the end of the road, then being how they tend to be (ie dark in nature), and given that Jewish elitists have sacrificed and abandoned average and working class Jews before, I wonder, is it possible that these Jewish elitists could make capital by way of manipulating world events, so that Russia would nuke Israel? Naturually, long beforehand, you would see migration out of Israel, all the connected and well of Jews would be gone, maybe even to Russia. A % of Jews would still remain of course, who knows how many, maybe a million, who knows.

Jewish elitists, who are utterly ruthless btw, then use their influence to get Russia to nuke Israel. It achives the end of the project for them, and, on top of that, for the next 100yrs or more, they can exploit the 'one million Jews nuked by Russians' card.

Why not?