is there ever a time that domestic abuse is acceptable?

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    I know, I know.... seems so black and white? Domestic violence is always bad. I mean, I ask my g/f to record the game..... and neverminding that she didn't even record the 30 minute post game show, you know, in case the game goes into O.T. but she records regular TV, not HD.

    "well, at least you get to see the game right?"

    yeah, I pay for HD so I can watch regular TV like poor people.....


    would she be deserving a slap there?


    NO? well how about

    you come home from a hard day work, is it so bad to expect a hot meal upon arrival? What happens if you come in and see the misses has drowned 2 of the 3 kids and she's about to knock off the 3rd..... Is it ok to ovary punch her then?

    Now that all the hypocritical-ness of "domestic violence is ALWAYS wrong" is out of the way...where's your line of when D.V. is acceptable....
     
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    WhatNow!? New Member

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    No, men have made up excuses for thousands of years....it's over, there are none.
     
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    so she just killed 2 of your kids and is about to dunk #3 inthe bathtub.....

    still not a valid reason to skull punt her?


    me thinks you read the title, formed your opinion, and never read what I typed... lol. Agenda driven hysteria because surely you have to find it acceptable at some point.....
     
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    Whar sort of women do you attach yourself to???????????
     
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    NONE....lol..... but you're avoiding the topic... lol


    or did I just make you realize, that you indeed, have a line where you can justify domestic violence.... lol

    Tough pill to swallow isn't it?
     
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    I would become physically violent if I walked in on my spouse or partner murdering my children. So there is your free space on the bingo card, at least in my opinion. Short of grievous harm or death to one's children or loved ones, I can not think of a valid excuse for a temporary loss of sanity that would cause one to become physically violent with their significant other.
     
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    "Skull punt"? You sure know all the words.....and seem awfully anxious to find an excuse ....like a wrongly taped football game.....


    I agree with the other poster who said it was OK in defense of your family which should be obvious. But I doubt men who like to beat women come home often to find their wife or girlfriend killing her children....they usually don't need that kind of excuse.
     
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    at least I got someone off the "there is never a good reason for domestic violence" stance. I do believe there is a good time from time to time.... kid murdering.... check.

    Beyond that, I'd be hard pressed to be able to justify it or listen to someone's excuse.

    however, not everything women classify as domestic abuse should be considered domestic abuse.

    if she jumps on his back, hitting him, and he shakes her off.... not domestic abuse on his part despite the fact that he would go to jail for it.

    her scratching his face, and he pushes her away.... not domestic violence on his part.

    Yes, I know sometimes women go to jail for D.V.... but that is not the norm, but rather, the exception.
     
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    You didn't get me off my "never a good reason for domestic violence" stance because self-defense or protecting children violently is not domestic abuse.


    Yes, women going to jail for domestic abuse IS an exception since men are responsible for almost all domestic abuse.
     
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    Not true. Woman commit around 50% of physical domestic violence.
     
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    When you already told her once?

    I kid, I kid.
     
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    same thing... hitting a woman is not acceptable to you unless..... (fill in whatever reason you can justify)

    you simply chose (self-defense) and (protecting children)

    YOu can call it domestic abuse or not, but you found a way to justify a man hitting his wife or g/f. I'm just pointing out everyone has a line, despite the fact that everyone wants to piously state "there is no good reason....."


    btw - congrats, you just justified wife/girlfriend/woman beating.... <<<Mod Edit: Personal Attack Removed>>>
     
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    No, I did not....but in your haste to beat and abuse your girlfriend(and for some reason need my approval(weird) ) you interpreted self defense as domestic abuse and vice versa....they are two different things.


    Only really weak , stupid, powerless, people resort to domestic abuse.
     
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    If you find someone killing your children and hit that person, I am sure that would not be called 'domestic violence'.

    "Domestic violence is defined as a pattern of abusive behaviors by one partner against another in an intimate relationship such as marriage, dating, family, or cohabitation."
     
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    Tension was mounting between me and my first wife of three ex's when she threw a plastic hair dryer at me. The dryer missed me but slammed into our wooden floor--splintering it to pieces where one large arrow shaped piece shot an inch deep into my chest causing bleeding. I took a pillow and began smothering her, and apparently I let up in time to save her sorry ass. I was regreting I hadn't finished the job for years, until I found out later from an e-mail that she had died from a bad heart. I didn't make the funeral, but I did thank GOD for HIS looking out for my general welfare after my miserable time of having lived with that witch.

    But to the OP--don't ever marry the wench.
     
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    YOU have three ex's and you're blaming women for your problems??? LOL!!!
     
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    or people that can justify it like you did earlier.... lol
     
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    oh and let's be clear, so all the people trying to deflect from the topic at hand (since they are trying hard not to admit they found a line to make beating their spouse acceptable.... lol)


    I did not find my wife/girlfriend killing any kid of mine, I have not hit any girl ever.

    so now, carry on avoiding the facts that you guys won't admit you have found acceptable reasons for a man to beat his wife or significant other. lol

    - - - Updated - - -

    you know how you get the next g/f not to expect a ring from you, don't have the first divorce finalized yet..... bwahahahaha.... why marry the cow.... is the saying, right...
     
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    lol.... keep backpedaling.... you said "no good reason to hit a woman" and then justified killing of children and self-defense as good reasons....

    who has trouble comprehending what?
     
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    I didn't say "there's no good reason to hit a woman".

    I said there's no reason for domestic abuse.

    There are reasons to use violence in self defense or to protect someone else.....and you can't understand those big words or the difference between "domestic abuse" and "self-defense"......but I'm sure someday a cop or judge will have to explain...:)






    Only really weak , stupid, powerless, people resort to domestic abuse.
     
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    Definition

    Domestic violence and emotional abuse are behaviors used by one person in a relationship to control the other. Partners may be married or not married; heterosexual, gay, or lesbian; living together, separated or dating.
    http://www.domesticviolence.org/definition/

    so, despite the fact that mother of the year is in process of killing a kid.... if her hubby or b/f hits her it's domestic abuse by criteria of b/f or hubby hitting his significant other.

    Reason does not then change it's name. It simply makes it justifiable....

    I know this angers many on here because I see lots of affirming the consequence.... if you argue that this is not (abuse) you must want to do it....

    I have yet to say "if she doesn't make dinner, beat her ass" but people are afraid to admit that there are times that it's perfectly acceptable to beat the shat out of your wife or g/f.....
     
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    Do you understand the difference between self defense and assault?

    Domestic violence is assault by a domestic partner. This is always legally wrong. If you want to dream up exceptions like revenge for killing your baby or dog or because she is really an Al Qaeda terrorist about to blow up Rush Limbaugh....dream away. I frankly don't understand what your point is.

    Self defense is when you protect your children or yourself or anyone else from attack.

    This is no different by the way than if you started a thread asking "is murder ever excusable" and then bring up examples of killing to defend your children.

    I guess what I wonder is why you are looking for rationalizations as to when it is okay to beat up your girlfriend.
     
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    You can make up any false definition you want.... there are times when beating your wife is acceptable..... face it.
     
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    Just like there are times when it is acceptable to beat any human being in self defense or in the defense of another. Duh.

    What's your point Javis? Are you trying to find a reason to justify beating up a woman who is close to you?
     
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    Thats the same intellectually dishonest conclusion everyone angry with this question says
     

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