Is there any problem too big for God to solve?

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  1. WhatNow!?

    WhatNow!? New Member

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    Why didn't you just use the regulation cop out phrase, "God works in mysterious ways"....simplicity is key to good writing.
     
  2. EggKiller

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    Ahh, but occaisionally there are times he lifts a finger. I can'y explain why, I just know that he does.
     
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    "He can make a stone which is equal to endless universe in its size and God can also lift it, but there cannot be a stone that God cannot lift."---Yazverg

    I think Yaz fails to see the paradox. If God CAN'T make a stone that He can't lift...He's not ominipotent. (Again, Yaz said "real or imagined" problems). It's not JUST the lifting, Yaz....it's also the MAKING of the rock...

    which doesn't even have to be within the Universe, but outside it (in a separaate dimension)...and comprised of neutronium or something even denser which God should be able to create. In fact, the rock could be small as a pebble...but if God puts Infinite weight "within" the rock.....then Infinite force cannot move it.
     
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    The old "blame the victim" syndrome. WE are to blame for tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis. A staple of theodicy apologia for centuries.
     
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  6. EggKiller

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    FWIW Stones have no weight where God exists. The whole concept is ridiculous.
     
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    so god could not make them heavy

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    ok......

    until someone supplies empirical evidence of magic it is going to remain in the realm of subjective interpretation, at best.
     
  8. EggKiller

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    Agreed, I only know it has been proven to me. Why me? no earthly idea. I'm certainly not the most worthy being around these parts. Perhaps just a mere pawn that needed a shove in some cosmic chess game.
     
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    To answer the OP question, there is no problem too big of Allah (God) to solve because there is no problem too big for people to solve, either in part or as a whole.
     
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    How about the problem of survival of our species...?
    We need the salvation of The Truth to help us accomplish that, do we not?

    We have only our human ingenuity by which to master life in this existence.
    Truth is the lord of our salvation, isn't that a truth.



    6 I, (as the personification of the concept), am the Truth, and the way (men ought be lead), and the life (eternal for our species): no man cometh unto the Father, (the next time frame of the almighty Reality), but by me, (Truth).
     
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    i dunno
     
  12. Garibaldi

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    For a start...

    1. A Heavenly Sucessful Rebellion by Satan and his minions that continues unto this very hour.

    2. Physical pain as a signal of something amiss...when a sweet Heavenly Choir would work nicesly.

    3. Cancer!!?! I mean, God...WTF???

    4. Snot as a solution to ANY problem.

    5. The Kardashians.

    6. Women who turn me down.

    7. OH...and War.

    Give me a minute and I'll think of a dozen other things that God seems to small to handle. I say FIRE the bugger.
     
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    It doesn't make sense for God to set any commandments for people then. If human is a pure a mechanism with a fate that is ready on its burth he cannot be blamed for any evil he makes during the lifetime. If its not his will to kill kids at school - he cannot be blamed. And not even by God but also by a human's law. Unfortunately for criminals, at least so far people believe that there is a free will and christians are no exception.

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    You ever asked? I did.
     
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    Because I never used in English before... I am not a native speaker, so if you correct me once I do these language mistakes - I would be really grateful.
     
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    You can choose any paradox you like. My favorite: God cannot create a stone big enough, which he himself cannot lift.
     
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    There are no clever fools in here, right? It's either a man is a fool or he is clever. And there is no rock that a God cannot lift. Such a rock would be more would be greater than God, which is impossible coz nothing is greater. There cannot be a stone which God cannot lift, or a stone which is twice heavier than that, just because stones don't possess any of God's properties. So God can make any stone and any stone can be lifted by God and there is no stones in the uneverse that are greater then God.
     
  17. WhatNow!?

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    Just look up "cop out".....
     
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    :) Thank you! For putting some humor in a silly thread ....."snot" ! Ya, what's up with that? No. 6 LOL! They're all good AND make a point!
     
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    So then your answer is to remove the role of God and put it in man's hands?

    LOL
     
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    You have to have a backbone to solve anything this god cannot even speak for himself how is he going to solve something? Why don't someone ask him about all the starving children.
     
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    AW, c'mon...ya know "god" let's children starve because...."God works in mysterious ways"... for some weird ,stupid, irrational, unimaginable, illogical reason....
     
  22. EggKiller

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    Well, you got the unimaginable part right.
    What I find amazing is the sheer magnitude of people on this planet that have somehow concluded our existance was meant to be fair. While it may be nice, wheres the evidence its rational.
     
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    God doesn't have any problems, only people. God had everything figured out since the beginning. No one can refute his universal laws. Many try, and that's why they die. Put your hand in fire and it gets burned. Breathing is a universal law. Go ahead, just try not to.
     
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    Well everyone dies so they all must've refuted his universal laws...
     
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    I have no idea what our existence was MEANT to be but I never claimed it was fair...quite the opposite....and your post sure doesn't address the god thingy... for a thing that allegedly loves children and doesn't want baaaaaaabies killed in the womb it sure doesn't care about their suffering.......almost as if he doesn't EXIST :) :)
     

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