Explosion at US Embassy in Ankara

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Abu Sina, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21293598

    I wonder why people are blowing up and attacking their embassies and killing their ambassadors?.....................

    Hillary.......any ideas?

    - - - Updated - - -

    2 dead so far by the way

    - - - Updated - - -

    [​IMG]
     
  2. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,501
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is tragic news and the loss of life is sad. To answer your question, these attacks against US facilities overseas could likely be retaliation against US foreign policy. That's the most obvious explanation anyway.

    That said, there's no excuse or moral justification for killing people like this.
     
  3. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    We are hearing here that Osama Bin Laden son in law was arrested today in Istanbul!!!
     
  4. mutmekep

    mutmekep New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2012
    Messages:
    6,223
    Likes Received:
    46
    Trophy Points:
    0
    OBL had like 50 sons in law ... why he was arrested ?
     
  5. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    3 dead

    bomber ? guard and ?US staff member

    - - - Updated - - -

    [​IMG]

    - - - Updated - - -

    no news on why
     
  6. Indofred

    Indofred Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    3,103
    Likes Received:
    315
    Trophy Points:
    83
    This is easy enough.
    America supplied murder money to Israel.
    People get bugged at America because Israel uses the weapons and money to kill innocents.
    Someone attacks America.
    You lot all get shocked and demand revenge.

    Sorry, you started the ball rolling so it's a bit tough if you get attacked.
     
  7. Tyrerik

    Tyrerik New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    3,092
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Sad loss of life. Three more Muslim deaths at the hands of the West I guess....

    BTW That is a really good window, I bet the manufacturer is happy with that photo. I wonder if it saved any lives?
     
  8. Jack Napier

    Jack Napier Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    40,439
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    0
    All of this.

    :thumbsup:
     
  9. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    US Embassy security surveillance cameras were switched off during attack media are reporting!!

    :blankstare:

    Same as when Princess Diana was killed
     
  10. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The Bin Laden that was arrested yesterday in Ankara where the explosion happened was called Suleiman and he entered Turkey on a fake Saudi Arabian Passport
     
  11. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Suleiman was captured by CIA agents in Ankara we are hearing and they wanted to extradite him to USA

    - - - Updated - - -

    What did I predict yesterday about an imminent Israeli false flag :mrgreen:
     
  12. Indofred

    Indofred Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    3,103
    Likes Received:
    315
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ah, Israeli false flag job then.
     
  13. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    5,871
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    0
    My view is that U.S. foreign policy is being used by some to legitimize the attack.

    It's more likely one more act by loyal Jihadists in their campaign toward the establishment of an ultimate global Islamic caliphate.

    No matter what the US foreign policy is, as long as we are governed by man's laws, rather than by the Koran and Allah's laws, we will be targeted.

    No matter what we do, short of surrender, they will continue to target us.
     
  14. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    of course! but wait on the 'conspiracy theory' chanters who will be along in a moment once they have finished their hasbara debriefing for today

    - - - Updated - - -

    so why do you think the US and Saudi and UK are supporting the Jihadists then and helping them build their caliphate?

    strange dont you think...................
     
  15. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    apparently they scraped his remains off the walls and identified him already! :blankstare:

    Ecevit Şanlı is his name they say and was against US Iraq war and invasion and US and Western Imperialism
     
  16. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    13,370
    Likes Received:
    111
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I guess Obama and Clinton will be preparing the plane and nice orange suit to fly the Bin Laden out of Ankara to Guantanamo next and all news nicely diverted away from Israeli airstrike on Syria :mrgreen:
     
  17. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I don't see any moral differentiation between this bombing and a drone strike on somebody else's ' high value target '.
     
  18. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,739
    Likes Received:
    684
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Expect to see this type of thing happening in NYC as a response to obama's Drone War.
     
  19. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    What's the difference between a drone strike on a ' high value ' muslim and a suicide bomb strike on a ' high value ' christian . Suppose that muslims hit an American ambassador's home with a drone strike and killed him and his family. How is that any different from a christian suicide bomber blowing up an Afghans home and killing him and his family. Is this a matter of methods ? :mrgreen:
     
  20. Tyrerik

    Tyrerik New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    3,092
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Religion doesn't appear to have played a part in this case however terrorist Islamists targettng people on the basis of their faith like this:


    "The terrorists told us at the very start that they would not hurt Muslims but were only interested in the Christians and infidels," Abdelkader, 53, told Reuters from his home in the nearby town of In Amenas. "We will kill them, they said."

    source

    is very different from targetting the kind of people who organise such acts.

    Can you really say that you wouldn't have wanted a drone strike on the high value targets the attacking convoy consisted of? The only difference for you between these militants and their victims is their religion and otherwise they are just both high value targets depending only on the arbitrary side you see it from?
     
  21. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Again, I see no moral differentiation between US of AIPAC terrorists killing people with drones and others killing US of AIPAC terrorists with suicide bombs. That's because there isn't any.
     
  22. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    5,871
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    0
    One side of the argument may seem equal in moral value to the other side. But one side is the aggressor and the cause of this violence.

    Unfortunately for you, you have chosen to cast your sympathies with the 'bad guys' in this danse.

    Even more unfortunately, you probably don't even recognize they are at fault or that what they are doing is wrong. That the violence being brought down on these high value targets was initiated by the victims themselves. That the innocents lives are lost due to Islamic Jihadists' actions.

    Muslims around the world who are living peaceful lives are accomplishing this, in part, because they have no connections or proximity to violent Jihadists.
     
  23. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83

    Absolutely not. You appear oblivious to Western support for Zionism and the rape of muslim lands and culture.
     
  24. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    5,871
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It's definitely the result of a compromise. Without Middle East oil the developed world would be in a panic and begin to quickly die.

    But, the Saudis had to promise to fund the growth, long term, of the Jihadist's 'farm team' in 1979 IIRC when militants seized the shrine at Mecca and the Saudi Royals were prevented by shariah law from using weapons and munitions in the shrine to defeat these militants.

    The government appealled to the top holy men who made them this deal: You can use deadly force to defeat the militants in the mosque ONLY if you agree to fund our ongoing jihadist efforts forever.

    That explains our arrangement with the Saudis and their role in supporting the growth of global Jihad and terrorism.
     
  25. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    5,871
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Neither you, nor anyone else here, has yet to convince me (a reasonable man) that all of the suffering you lament isn't caused by Muslims.

    The cause and effect of this whole thing starts long ago.

    Do you know about the history of the so-called Palestine area before the writing of the Koran?

    Fact #1. The Jewish people are the Chosen People:

    Fact #2. The Land of Israel belongs to God

    Fact #3. The Chosen People needed a Chosen Land, and so the God of Israel
    strategically chose the Land of Israel for the People of Israel:

    Fact #4. The Land of Israel was given by God to the descendants of Abraham as an
    everlasting possession:

    Fact #5. Even though Abraham had many sons, the Land of Israel wasn't given to
    Ishmael, or to any of the other sons of Abraham, but only to Isaac:

    Fact #6. Even though Isaac had two sons, the Land wasn't given to Esau, but to Jacob:

    Fact #7. There is no doubt about Israel's God-given borders because they are described
    for us in detail in the Holy Scriptures:

    Fact #8. In addition to the everlasting covenant (which includes the Land), God swore
    an oath to give the Jewish people this Land:

    Fact #9. Israel's sin and resulting exile from the Land of Israel never annulled God's
    covenant with His Chosen People, nor did it permanently abrogate our right to the Land
    of Israel:

    Fact #10. In His prophetic Word, God promised to regather us to "our own Land":

    Fact #11. In His prophetic Word, God calls this restored Land "Israel" - not "Palestine":

    Fact #12. God, speaking to us through the prophet Ezekiel, informs us that this Land is
    specifically reserved for the Jewish people:

    Fact #13. 2,500 years ago the Lord also told us that the Jewish return to the Land would
    provoke a reaction from Israel's neighbors:

    Fact #14. God will severely judge any nation who divides up any part of this special
    Land:

    Fact #15. Eventually this conflict over the Land of Israel will entangle the entire world:

    Fact #16. This will be a time of great difficulty for the Jewish people, but we will be
    miraculously delivered out of it:

    www.messianicassociation.org/a-lj-zionism.htm

    I edited out much of the text for you.

    You're welcome.
     

Share This Page