Students Told to Stop ‘USA!’ Chant, Take Off American Flag Bandanas

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    I can't wait to hear that as well. Nothing is stopping those folks from joining the chant
     
  2. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    Nationalism and racism are first cousins.
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

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    Leftism and Imperialism are kissing cousins pal.
     
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    The principal has every right to stop kids who are creating a disturbance at a school-sponsored sporting event. Why do they feel the need to chant "USA"! at a Hispanic-majority team? What afre they trying to accomplish? I don't get it. Do they have an inferiority complex? I think this kind of nationalistic behavior is learned at home.
     
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    Yeah , those evil parents teach their children to say their countries name to offend Hispanics ... Tinfoil hat.
     
  6. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    Your copycat non-sequiter does nothing to advance this discussion, but thanks for playing.
     
  7. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts ?
     
  8. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    No, I was referring to this strange desperate need in some people for America to be #1 at everything. Can't we all just get along?
     
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    I could see how chanting USA! and pointing directly at a hispanic crowd could be considered inflamitory. We both know why they chanted it.. To be inflamitory. So why are you suprised they might be offended?

    Even so, they weren't offended according to the article so its kind of a moot point. But the School admin thought it may be wise to avoid confrontation during a heated rivalry game.. it makes sense. There isnt some big Anti-American conspiracy going on here as the OP seems to suggest.

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    If you were a patriotic hispanic American, someone chanting USA! in your face in a way that suggests you aren't a patriotic American, may offend you. Its not rocket science.

     
  10. Oldyoungin

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    So people who chant USA have a strange , desperate need ....don't you think that's a bit of a generalization ?
     
  11. Albert Di Salvo

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    Leftism is like imperialism because it seeks to impose Western notions of civil liberties and society on non-western societies. You didn't know that did you?
     
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    I'm not saying it was racist, I'm saying it was inflamitory. I doubt they chanted USA when they played the mostly white high school down the street.

    The article I linked also mentioned other racial language being directed toward the Rio Mesa sideline. Not the USA chants.

     
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    The kids were simply acknowledging the reality of division in California.
     
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    Maybe they were trying to prove a point:

    “To be honest, this is what I wanted to happen,” Medeiros said of the attention. “I was texting people from the minute I got suspended to start blowing it up on social networking, email whoever they could, call whoever they could.”

    Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/feb/07/american-flag-incident-at-camarillo-high-spurs/#ixzz2KpfkTumU
    - vcstar.com
     
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    Why would Mexicans want to chant about Chavez? It would be akin to us in the US flying the USA flag and chanting Stephen Harper.
     
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    Who said the Hispanic team was offended? The article doesn't mention them being interviewed so I really don't know what their feelings are on this. From the little the article says it sounds to me like the principal was trying to avoid a situation that might get out of hand. Which is smart.

    It seems to me (my opinion) that there are many people in this country who seem to think they can do whatever they want whenever they want and in any setting. These kinds of things don't belong in a school setting. We should be teaching our kids to get along with each other and to respect diversity. Sitting idly by while a group of kids tries to enforce their will through intimidation tactics is not a option if you're trying to instill values.
     
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    How can anyone possibly know the reason each and every student chanted, its a bit rich claiming to be able to read their minds. The words are either offensive or not. What next lock people up because of what we think they're thinking?
     
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    Cesar Chavez is a hero in California to the new arrivals and their gangbanger children. Viva La Raza.
     
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    No one claims to know what they were thinking. The admin saw a situation that could boil over and decided to pre-emptively end it. He says so in the article. Its not that big of a deal but Im sure it will continue to get construed as more evidence of godless libs hating Amerika.
     
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    You are dodging the question. What's offensive about a countries name being chanted ?
     
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    Eth, Sounds like right from the horses mouth the point was to be inflamitory. I'm not sure why you are arguing with me.

     
  22. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    Not in general. It depends on the situation. I don't see any reason why they would feel the need to chant that at a game between two teams from the same district. It doesn't make sense in any other context that I can think of (based on what little facts are given in the article) except as racial intimidation.

    btw, why is this even a story in the National Review, a publication with a pretty large circulation nationwide? What's their angle on this? Why would they care about a small, regional incident? Did they run out of things to say about affirmative action?
     
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    Umm maybe because he's talking about the attention this issue is receiving - as he said
     
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    You guys realize that the the kid chanting USA had a Hispanic surname right?
     
  25. Oldyoungin

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    idk , I think the freedom of speech should win over here .. Especially if this is a public school .
     

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