Why is rape a crime?

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  1. Spade115

    Spade115 New Member

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    I agree with you on this last post so I am not saying your one way or another I was just curious why on most of the post's you say date rape is fake but then back up certain types. I Agree with drunk sex is not the same, I also want to say that if your getting hammered you should always have a friend make sure you dont walk off with someone you shouldnt.

    The last scenario has happened where the wife was being unfaithful her husband walks in and she yells rape and the husband shoots the "lover" and the wife is charged.

    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/national_world&id=5171058
     
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    Is it still rape if she now has dibs on having the person put out whenever it may be easy and convenient for her?
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This may be the most insensitive and stupid comment I have ever read! I cannot believe that anyone can be that ignorant about sexuality!
    The sexual act, if it is not between TWO CONSENTING Adult is RAPE, and it consist in an invasion of one's body by a foreing matter, whether it be a PENIS or a wooden stick!

    Men can ALSO be raped! And, although some men may be stimulated by the kinky idea of being RAPED, most normal men would not even be able to "perform" if they were FORCED to do so!

    It has NOTHING to do with healthy sexuality or arousal! It is in fact more often an act of HATE and sick need for control of another person than it is an act of "desire" of another person!

    I cannot believe that any adult, in this days and age can be that ignorant!
     
  4. Gwendoline

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    I'll be going past the police station tomorrow. I'll be sure to pop in and tell them about the person on the internet asking why rape is a crime.

    I will even give them a link to this thread. It's important for policemen to be well versed and to be able to recognise aberrant, misogynistic, hateful thinking that seeks to exonerate scumbag rapists.

    Didn't think Libhater could sink so far down the trough, but there you go. Congratulations on emulating a rapist with your sentiments.

    Political forum, a place for certain snivelly cowards to make the kind of 'criminal' statements they'd never make in front of a policeman.
     
  5. JavisBeason

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    good on the story.....

    as far as why I back up say it's fake, yet back up certain kinds.... it's just how this forum works. most think it's all or nothing. So if I don't support (drunk sex daterape) then I must not believe in ANY daterape. it's why I believe there should be separate terms because I absolutely believe there is date-rape.

    but I also believe there is a lot of times guys get locked up and have their lives ruined over girls who simply change their mind about consent they gave, blaming it on alcohol that THEY CHOSE to consume.

    I get horny as hell when drunk... it's just the way it is.... and I have made some regrettable choices while drunk concerning women. Why, when it happens to women, is it considered a crime but when it happens to a man, he's just a alcoholic pig.


    but as the other thing I notice, I always have a plan to either stay at the place I'm hanging out at and sleep off the drunk, or a sober ride home. I also do not drink that much (as far as number of times I do it)

    All the men-haters on here sure are quick to dismiss what happened to me, but if roles were reversed, would be calling for castration if perfectly sober me had picked up a girl, friend who was drunk, and then had sex with her, knowing that sober her wouldn't have had sex with me.
     
  6. Libhater

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    I see there are a couple of women libbers posting here that have no problem avoiding such a question, and in fact the question you posed relates back to my OP question as to why is rape a crime? These libbers and others don't seem to have the ability or desire to dig deep into these serious questions/isssues to realize that they're often seeing these issues from a closed-minded one-sided perspective. But you're right Javis, why aren't these libbers etc demanding women get prison time for their so-called sexual crimes against men, or against Bill Clinton's rape charge on Juanita Brodderick, or when women murder their unborn? Can we all collectively say...."DOUBLE STANDARD MUCH"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. Spade115

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    I understood all this until you got to "murder their unborn" how is that a double standard? Men cant kill their unborn.....o.0
     
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    but pushing his preggo wife or g/f down the stairs sure is frowned upon.
     
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    Just thought I’d summarize and consolidate comments here for the policeman who’s opening the thread.


    Libhater’s views on RAPE:


     
  10. marleyfin

    marleyfin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Javis you constantly make statements like Date Rape is a fake crime. Perhaps being more specific about what you mean, in example falsely claiming you were raped because you regretted a consensual encounter is wrong would bring pretty much everyone to your side. The US justice system, the police, almost all Americans agree with that sentiment.
     
  11. Libhater

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    Almost bring everyone to his side? Would that include the vocal militant feminazis who can't see anything a woman does as being a crime?
     
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    marleyfin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no such thing an 100% agreement of anything. I, like most could care less about these "militant feminazis" you talk about all time, they are a very small minority despite your attempts to claim otherwise. Most women are heterosexual females, hence harbor a fondness for the male gender. As a heterosexual female I am certainly am less sympathetic to women in general, but of course this depends entirely on the situation and circumstances.
     
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    Would guys feel any need to rape women, if women were moral enough to fornicate us into relationships whenever they find us in between girlfriends, simply for the sake of honesty as a moral and form of respect toward fellow human beings?
     
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    perhaps, I always do get more specific.... even in this thread.
     
  15. Libhater

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    I never claimed the militant feminazis were anything but a small and very vocal minority. My mention of the hardcore feminazis (some on this very forum) is to get a two-sided narrative going that touches on the hypocritical nature of those hardcore wymin who setting their hatred of men aside for the moment seem to have this blindspot and or perhaps a devious political plan to ensure that only men get blamed and get lengthy prison terms for so-called criminal acts much more benign then that of their fellow sisters, thus the mention of the double standard.

    Let me give you an example:

    One of my ex wives who turned out to be a radical-militant feminazi after we divorced claimed I sexually assaulted our 3-year-old daughter during one of my daughter's weekend visits with me. This ex bit--ch who was later diagnosed as being bi-polar among having other degenerate symptoms took me to court in the socialist republic of Taxachusetts where any and all claims against a man in domestic disputes will turn out 100% in favor of the woman; my case was no different. So while her claims were ludicrous as always, she nonetheless won the case and I had to further compensate the republic of socialist Taxachusetts and lose all visitation rights with my daughter.

    By using the aforementioned example, I intended to link the hypocrisy and downright disengenuous claims by many women in many cases of so-called rape against this fairer sex called wymin. I hope you're not painting all wymin with the same saintly broad paintbrush. I don't get to see many halos floating over the heads of the women I've encountered, but you may just be the exception.
     
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    Ok, its the first time I read the clarification. Date rape does happen and it is most certainly a crime anytime one violates another. Lying or making false rape claims against someone is also a violation, and a better way in my opinion of stating the issue.
     
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    it's only a 'double standard' if it works against their political agenda.


    I am, by no means, saying rape is good, deserved, or should be allowed, but if women want equality, then that sword cuts both ways. Problem is, most people don't want TRUE equality. In reality, they just want extra protection or benefits. And some even see that as ok for 'past sins against their ancestors' as payback. Despite the fact none of them have ever had anything like that happen to them.
     
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    If that was your intent with this thread, you have made a terrible argument for it. In fact I do think I could even extrapolate that argument if I tried from any of your posts. You made the argument that if women wanted to be viewed as equal they should accept being forcefully violated against their will, because most men would accept such. Its a ludicrous, idiotic and offensive claim to both men and women. Which seems to reoccurring theme with your threads in this sub-section, to state highly offensive and derogatory comments. To attribute any certain characteristic to 4 plus billion people is illogical. And these are the reasons why I have chosen to respond in jest to your threads, because they are absurd and intentionally inflammatory.

    Women are also falsely accused by vindictive ex-lovers of terrible crimes in order to get revenge. There are (*)(*)(*)(*)ty people of every gender, race, religion, region, etc. etc. Projecting your anger on others who are not the source of your insult is neither productive or logical.

    If I ever come across a reasoned argument about the inequalities of the sexes from you, I will respond in kind ... as I have in other threads on the topic.
     
  19. Libhater

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    I see that you weren't the exception to the rule in that you too seem to be taking the one-sided position of those wymin who continue wearing halos and viewing supposed female/male crimes through rose colored glasses. Your response here like so many of the responses from wymin in this thread continue to avoid discoursing the obvious double standard concerning the severity of and even the legitimacy of this thing called rape, and thus, the reason for the title....is rape a crime? So be it. So, not only is this about the inequality of the sexes, but its also about the inequality of our judicial system as it pertains to all three of our genders.
     
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    like I stated before, most of the times when people admit to a double standard.... beit rape, racism, etc..... it's seen as justified for past sins against their group. ie - guys in the 50's were racist, so blacks today are entitled to affirmative action and keeping a job despite being less qualified than a white guy, or women in the early 1900's were raped, so any guy accused of rape today is ok, because so many got away with it back then....

    double standards exist for men too, and I'm equally against them.... for example... I slept with 4 different girls in 4 weekends.... guys give me high fives for that, but a woman does it, she's called a slut. I disagree with that double standard too. Either both of us are sluts, or both are not.

    heck, the simple fact that this forum has a "woman's rights" section, but no "men's rights" section has been discussed before and is also a double standard. Even if they simply renamed "gender issues" it would be better.... but no.... the double standard continues.
     
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    I believe women have a civil right to fornicate men into relationships whenever they find us in between girlfriends, simply for the sake of honesty as a moral and form of respect toward fellow human beings.
     
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    get preggo, trap a man
     
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    I prefer it when they get us to clamor for a relationship by getting their girlfriends involved until we put out a relationship.
     
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    Maybe he is just practicing his arguments for when he meets his maker
    and is asked why did he do it.
     
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    Get drunk, force yourself on someone and claim innocence

    Both sides can play that game
     
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