Warmongers passed off as 'heroes'.

I am sure that FDR would have gladly sat ouyt WWII had there ben a choice. War is not really good for the ecconomy. It wastes reources that could be used putting people back to work.

War for profit is like being a crack dealer and your own best customer.

 

Not if you create it, then fund both sides.

 

Oh look!! An apologist for the biggest mass murderers in the history of mankind...The Leninist/Stalinist Bolsheviks.....Priceless!!!

 

It's disgusting isn't it.

It is HORRIFIC that you can even trendily call yourself such a thing, and yet these bastards were the biggest mass butchers ever.

[video=youtube;J4Nl_Q-EjbA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=J4Nl_Q-EjbA[/video]

 

And Sack almost got it right, with his book, save for the fact that rather than it being an 'eye for an eye', it would have been better if he had gone all the way and called us 'Us being us, sadly'. Just AN eye.

[video=youtube;lqDf7wGw1RA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqDf7wGw1RA&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

 

Are you sure your arms aren't bound together?That would certainly explain your gross anti-American rant. From my very distant post I am certain that there were some American Presidents who would not be rated very highly.But Lincoln and FDR etc? You must be drowning in anti-American bile.

May I suggest that, if you want to list the vilest of warmongers of recent times (this and last century) you could not do better than this list:

Hitler;

Stalin;

Pol Pot;

Mao Zedong

Mussolini; and more recently, from www.nowpublic.com/worst-african-dictators:

Mengistu Haile Mariam (1937 – ) President of Ethopia who has had as many as 1.5 Million of his own people executed in just four years between 1975 and 1979;

2. Omar Al-bashir (1947 – Now) Amnesty International claims some 1 million people have been killed in the Sudanese civil war;

3. Idi Amin Dada (1925 – ) 'Bodies were found with genitals, noses, livers, and eyes missing. Prison camps began filling up with common citizens, where prisoners forced to bludgeon each other to death with sledgehammers’. Most sources suggest that around 300,000 people were killed by Amin’s forces.'


Without forgetting the gruesome thugs from the old Yugoslavia.

Just a sample for you to contemplate. But it does seem that your education was very limited indeed!

 

Are you imaging things?

The thread is not even about America.

Ta ta..

 

Well very obviously you have a reading problem, as this was the post to which I was responding:

On the American side you have Lincoln (who was a tyrant in every sense of the word, despite popular opinion), Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and Reagan. Obviously this isn't a complete list.

All were warmongers in every way and deserve to have their strong reputations destroyed.

Back to reading school for you!

 

Thank you Jack, although I've read bits abt ths atrocity - its good to be reminded who the real criminal perpetrators was.


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Thanks Jack for the videos on Rhwanda & Katyn Forest. The Rwanda video began with a platitude about a "Global Village".
In terms of what the goyim imagine it means, it is a lie; But, its not a lie to the war crazies, because to them, the world is a global village filled with goyim - human like livestock, that must be culled at times.

The US government did its best to cover what happened at Katyn covering up for the Soviets who invaded Poland, The US supported the Soviets, while waging a war against Germany for invading Poland.

In the case of Rwanda, the US government had been busy creating the situation. Does the "HomeLand Security" place of safety they built as a trap resemble anything they've built in the US?

Here are some of the targets they are training their forces of democrazy with on the use of 40 cal. dumdum ammo:


Here is one of their poster children in genocide whom they fully supported and asssisted in a planned Rwanda in South Ossetia:

The USA was very angry that the Russians stopped their planned genocide in South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

More recently they unleashed bombs and Talmu-Islamic cutthroats on Libya and Syria.
These more recent events are not different in spirit than those threacheries, betrayals and slaughters conducted in the regimes of Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, Wilson, FDR and others.
Here is the US military policy towards civilians as spelled out by US General Sherman:
"We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies."

One guy, diligent in the doctrines of democrazy, thinks we should focus on Mao, Hitler etc. But all those guys that comrad Diligent mentioned were part of various US schemes of treachery.

 

I'll overlook the spelling errors and go right to the point you seem to be advocating bringing to light the "horrors of the past" which is interesting except for the part where there are too many horrors. You could spend a decade just tracking down all the horrible things done in a single war by a single country on a single front. The East Front alone of WW2 would take a century, and then what would you do, run around and tell everyone? How feasible is that? What good does it serve? People are going to prop up certain individuals as exemplars of humanity because to tell the truth most people have a hard time understanding what they should do so they pick people who stand out(in war the leaders most often) and raise them up on a pillar. Then time passes and somebody else wants to tear them down. These weren't great men or horrible men, they were just people. You used the example of Churchill and Dresden, did you all go into the Bombing of Britain? The destruction of London? The evacuation of Dunkirk? The corner that Britain felt itself pressed into? You've found an event and wave it around as conclusive proof that Churchill was evil and a warmonger er and Britain should be ashamed. Then you go on to Germany and suggest every nation should deal with their own guilt as Germany has with the nazis and become so fanatical about overcompensating for the crimes of men long dead, that holocaust denial is literally outlawed. Would you like it to become policy in America to have a museum for the firebombing of Tokyo or the Nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How about a mandatory memorial day each year for the native Americans killed on the trail of tears? Or would you instead prefer a lesson in every class each year about the Filipino revolution and it's suppression?


All countries have sins and there is no point to burdening a populace who had nothing to do with it, with that guilt. I'm german by heritage and I feel no responsibility for the sack of Rome or the looting of Antioch.

 

Well I have read some stupid anti- American,anti-Western posts in time on this site, but this must be the most biased anti- American, anti- Western totally unsubstantiated post I have ever read, but especially this grossly biased line:

'The USA was very angry that the Russians stopped their planned genocide in South Ossetia and Abkhazia'.

Whilst at the same time neglecting the real perpetrators of terror in the African sub continent .Here is a short list of some of these African terrorists for your,badly needed, edification:

Mugabe

Charles Taylor

Mobutu

Idi Amin Dada

Laurent Kabila – DR Congo

Just a small list for your ongoing, desperately need edification.Please visit your nearest public library ASAP

Are you sure you are not on some sleep deprivation substance?.Now that would really explain your Anti-Western anti-American paranoia.

The Katyn masscare was the sole responsibility of one of the worst mass murderers of the last Century Stalin (closely followed by Mao,Hitler and Pol Pot,and please don't tell me you have never heard of these mass murderers?)

 

At least British people have the grace to look at the damage that was done to ordinary Germans, and truly feel for them, and it. Just as there are Germans that truly feel for our losses. Compare that to this repulsive arrogance from Americans, who not only think that using A bombs, for the first and only time in history was just, but the implication is that they sort of did the Japanese a favour.

This is precisely the sort of outlook that I really do not like in this generation of Americans, which suffers from the same lack of collective group mentality, oddly enough, as their Jewish masters.

 

I guess Dresden is one of the worst war crimes of all time if you don't count all of Germany's war crimes that were 11ty times worse.

 

Read some real history.

Not the Holywood Spieberg kind.

The worse of all war criminals?

Communists.

No one even close.

 

I think we could have gotten involved with Nazi Germany and helped keep them from committing atrocities. We may even have helped facilitate a change in leadership. Germany was seeking to be allied with Great Britain and the US against the USSR, and I think we'd have been wise to help take that regime down. Stalin was no better than Hitler, his regime actually more deadly on the whole. Most of the deaths in Nazi Germany could be tied either directly or indirectly to the allies, since we were not only killing them outright but also bombing their supply trains and such. Then you've got that madman Winty who sought genocide against the Germans..

I don't know how or why it happened, but we definitely chose the wrong side in that war as far as Germany was concerned. Japan, I'm not so sure.. And maybe it was Germany's being allied with Japan that kept us from supporting them, ultimately.

 

That's a preposterous suggestion. Hilter was set on world domination with one of the vilest, twisted minds that anyone has ever seen on this earth.No one with an ounce of knowledge of WW11 history could possibly condone an alliance of the Allies with the gruesome maniacal Hitler who was responsible for the death of millions of innocent people, the gassing and torture of six millions Jews, countless Gypsies and any other person or groups that did not fit in with his idea of a superior Aryan race.

And of course the Allies had to bomb their supply routes.Anyone on the allied side who did not pursue this task would been sacked on the spot, and rightly so.

And most of the deaths in Germany were caused by its gruesome determination to rule Europe at any price.If Hitler had surrendered when it was obvious he was losing the war he could have saved the deaths of thousands of countless civilians and soldiers.He is soley responsible for the deaths of millions of his own people, and fortunately, the current German generation and leadership understand this and has instituted reparations.However the West Germans were certainly lucky that they had the assistance of the Allies during Stalin's efforts to blockade Berlin.The Berlin Airlift, in the immediate aftermath of WW11, was one of the most memorable efforts by the Allies to help people who had just recently been part of a Government that had commenced a world war, killed millions of people and committed countless atrocities in the name of a superior Aryan race.

Imagine what would have happened to the world if Hitler had won the war or the Allies had succumbed to the gruesome Soviet regime, which lead to the deaths of millions of its own people in the infamous Gulags after the conclusion of WW11, or the deliberate starvation of millions of Russian peasants by Stalin.

Are you totally ignorant of the events and causes of WW11? Maybe I should excuse you as you are probably still in prep school.No one else could surely be that ignorant of the events and causes of WW11.

 

Your view is propagandised. We sided with one brutal dictator against another and committed atrocities equal to their own in order to secure final victory. We sided with evil against evil, and I'm just saying that we sided with the wrong evil. Germany could have been dealt with far more constructively.

I have to chuckle at that world domination stuff, by the way. I know the propaganda of the period made a lot of noise about that, but there was no way a few Germanic madmen were ever going to realise such a goal. They weren't even clever enough to take down neighbouring Russia, for crying out loud.

 

If Hitler had been smarter, or listened to his Generals, and attacked the UK before he attacked Russia, the outcome could have been very different.Fortunately for the Free World he never learnt from the mistakes of Napoleon just over a century earlier.

The Free world came very very close to world domination by a grueseme mad dictator. And we in Australia would have been squashed like limpid ants by the brutal boot of the Japanese sycopaths.Thank god we were saved the Yanks and our own brave military personnel.

 

Interesting point and perhaps correct. Ill be the first to admit Im no WW2 knowledge buff, typically ive heard the basics we get told and left at that but over the years have gleamed bits n pieces here an there -so im happy to be corrected on any it.

Jews

But i recall one of Hilters main beefs with the Jews was money maters, now as we know they've had a strong hold over money changing since, well before Jesus. We know how they suffered to hyperinflation.The other thing as i understood the plan was never to kill them all it was to ship them off some Island and let them set up there. Maybe with the war escalating they didnt have the resource any more and hand to look at other options.

Race supremacy

The supremest race thing[/U] appears over cooked a little from what im seeing in recent docos about the occult. One i just watch tonight Hilter said "we dont want to be last on the world stage. We want to be alongside the first. This is what we pledge". Seems an odd statement to make, 'be alongside the first' if you consider your race far superior does it not? But watching the occult docos its clear what they meant, they believe/d Ayran race descends directly from gods, Odin, Thor ect and the homeland was Atlantis. They believe we lost our way, interbred ect and looked to boost Aryan genetic stock to get closer to the gods, perhaps even one day joining them.

England / US

As i understood it, he didnt want war with either of them. England is Europe and Aryan, very much of the same stock as the Germans. The US much the same being mainly Aryan, but they did NOT occupy native Ayran lands anyway, they are not Europe. Although he did feel they were corrupting their culture - many would agree with him on that today.

World domination

Again doesnt make any sense if first priority was to ship Jews off, certainly makes no sense the world being only Aryan if he's goal is to be alongside the first. Many countries at the time were playing around with the Darwin theories, Nazi Germany no different. So taking over the world seems pointless, their genetics are no good to him and its simply impractical to gas ALL other races on the planet. It seems more logical he was after an anti communist Europe, his people native land and then seeking to advance the genetic stock of the race.

Im Aussie and told by progressives/ leftards more times than id care to hear how im an invader of Aboriginal land. They should kill me or ship me off, I know many Americans get the same. So clearly many of our progressives think its wrong to not be a dominate culture in someone elses land, or even be there. (*)(*)(*)(*) we only have to look today we have to be every culture equally in every Aryan country, no countries care for it. Any how im certainly not convinced the Nazi plan was to kill the world because they were superior - the superior part appears to be more religious in nature. They wouldnt be the only ones to encourage breeding within their race/ religion.

 

Uh... yeah... We're gonna have to disagree on this one. It seems you've been rooked by the revisionists here.

I can't blame you though. This site is full of them.

 

Maybe it is you who has been 'rooked'?

Ever consider that, for once?

 

LOL @ thread.

Moralizing over all-out war and not playing by the rules. Seriously? It's war.

Angst over nuking Japanese cities but not firebombing.

Attempts to claim Hitler wasn't really trying to set up an empire. Is that why he invaded so many countries? So as not to set up his thousand year Reich?

Condemning America as murderous and evil - hilarious. Maybe if Europe hadn't dragged the world into two wars, we wouldn't have had to come to the rescue, twice. Maybe if Japan hadn't bombed us, and then refused to surrender at all costs, we wouldn't have needed to resort to nukes. But for those of you experiencing angst over this, I'll bet anything your country would have done the same thing in that situation. It was total war. Get a clue.

Attempts to make the Nazis regime out to not be so bad in comparison to communist regimes. Really?

 

I'd say that's fairly clear-one who deliberately instigates conflict. Churchill was responding to such a belligerent, not instigating.