Obama is failing our vets

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Consmike, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. Mayor Snorkum

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    Yeah, only the ignorant call the US an empire or ******* GW Bush an "emperor".

    The only practical reason that existed to invade Iraq was to put military pressure on both sides of Iran, given that we were already occupying the nation that initiated the 9-11 attacks.

    Naturally, given the treasonous nature of the US media and the DemocRATS no president could say they're taking out Iraq and Saddam Hussein because Iran is a looming nuclear threat, and yes, the Mayor noticed because GW Bush is and always has been a liberal, he was able to tell dozens of different lies with a facility to be admired by the stupid and gullible.

    Since the Mayor opposed the invasion of Iraq, you can have fun with your lies and innuendos. It was funny watching you attempt to annoy the Mayor by calling ******* Bush an "emperor", but the Mayor is used to the ignorant attempting to tease irate responses from their betters, and failing.

    As you clearly didn't notice, it was pointed out that King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, deliberately threw away the hard won victory and new ally a strife-torn middle east. King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, did that because he desires to strip the US of all allies, in addition to his economic war on the US.
     
  2. Wizard From Oz

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    It is always a troubling sign when someone speaks of themselves in the 3rd person. The rest of your post seems to support that concern
     
  3. Wildjoker5

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    I am surely not close to liberal. I wouldnt call Bush emperor unless everyone since lincoln can be called the same. But what do you call a nation that expands it military through out the world by force or coherssion? The British was an empire and they let the countries they were in generally govern themselves. We have bases in 90% of the countries in the world, and you dont call that an Empire? Why?

    Iran had preasure from Saddam, we didnt need to be there. Wonder why they want a nuke so badly when they are being threatened for staying within their own borders.

    Bush is a progressive, wouldnt say he was liberal. And again, Saddam kept Iran in check just fine. We were the ones that over threw the democratic government of Iran and sent into the theocracy it is today.
     
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    Wow...how did '286 miss THIS Huffblow article? This disgrace only matters if the media can use it to blame conservatives/Republicans.
     
  5. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    There are always veterans, in peace time or war time. My God liberals are dumb
     
  6. Wizard From Oz

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    Yes but when veterans are not being shot at blown up or generally at war with someone, the demands on the VA system are a lot less. Gee conservatives are dumb
     
  7. Consmike

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    during war, if a soldier is hurt, they are not a veteran yet.

    Are you upset at the left for getting us in mostly all of our other major wars?

    WW1
    WW2
    Vietnam
    Korea.....
     
  8. Wizard From Oz

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    But are Democrats complaining about the levels of aid being supplied by the VA as a result of those wars. No...so you really dont have a point
     
  9. TomFitz

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    Since that hasn't actually been proposed by anyone, I'll take it as a rhetorical question.

    This is not good news, but in this budget climate it's not surprising.

    Remember that the Republican repeatedly tried to CUT the Veterans Department and cut aid to vets during the IRaq war.

    Every Republican except McCain voted AGAINST the New GI Bill of Rights.

    Republicans have never been friendly to veterans.

    It's sad to see that the Adminstration is doing little better.
     
  10. Mayor Snorkum

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    No, it's always amusing when people who can't argue their position have to discuss the idiosyncratic posting methods of their betters, when that posting method is intended specifically to divert the easily diverted, solely as an amusement for the Mayor.
     
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    Yeah, the Paulbots always pretend the Cold War didn't happen. Last time the Mayor checked, the United States has no colonies, no subject states, and only a few minor territories, all of whom have the ability to vote in US elections, around the globe.

    Just in case you missed the memo, the US military bases around the world are established by mutual agreement and treaty. The only imperial action of the United States in the Mayor's lifetime was when the Impeached Former President, Bill Clinton, Perjurer and Rapist, changed the mission profile of the Somalia effort from international aid to "nation building", and, naturally, it was a disaster.

    You can babble all you want about Iraq, but the fact was that when GW Bush left office, Iraq's government was on track to independence. King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, naturally messed that up, and he did so deliberately, since an act of such monumental stupidity cannot be done on accident.

    Regardless of the Mayor's opposition to the invasion of Iraq, the fact of the matter is that the unvoiced stategery was sound. What was not was the application of the unstated goals and the fifth column efforts of the US media to make the commitment a failure, which the media could not do until the lying media elected King Obama, Fascist and Traitor.

    Personally, the Mayor gets tired of discussing matters military with Paul-bot Peace-nik pacifist kiddies who haven't studied war or even history.

    No, he's a *******. There's nothing progressive about making people slaves to socialism.

    *******s never do. You hear King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, admitting to being a fascist? a traitor? a socialist, Marxist, or idiot? No, you don't.

    But Bush admitted to being a ******* when he campaigned in California in 2000. He claimed to be a "compassionate conservative". Only a ******* would deny the essential compassion inherent in the essential conservative values. Only those who detest people would strip them of their humanity by making them dependent on tax dollars stolen from their betters.

    You were? The Mayor didn't recall evicting the Shah. Guess what? Go study the Cold War again. Try to realize that the United States IS NOT the source of evil in the world, socialism and totalitarianism is. Which isn't to say the US is perfect, it's just as close to heaven on earth as it's ever been before.
     
  12. Doug_yvr

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    Tens of thousands of claims waiting to be processed. More manpower to process them would do the trick but y'all don't want to increase spending do you.
     
  13. Consmike

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    So we can't cut spending at say, the EPA, DOD, DOE, DO Education, DOL, Commerce department, etc?

    No we can't cut those mushy plush union worker jobs now can we. We have to cut man power that handles our vets.
     
  14. Iriemon

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    Typical of conservatives. The constantly (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about spending but when it comes to things they personal care about, then it's spend away. They just want spending cuts in things other people care about.
     
  15. Wildjoker5

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    Any foreign town around the bases we occupy are only there because we are. Just like many towns in the US. As far as the cold war, what does that have to do with anything, since it ended 25 years ago and we are still in the same places as before.

    Established through cohersion and threat. Threats that if we pull out, then the evil people will get you and take you out of power. The major political forum in S. Korea is 2 sided, should they keep the US there or send us home. That is how they elect their POTUS.

    They were idependent before Bush took us to war without a declaration for war. Obama didnt mess up, he used that money he hated us borrowing for the war and still borrowed it to pay for his votes.

    You are talking to a military man of 10+ years who has deployed twice to Iraq and worked personally with Iraqis. You study your books, I will study life.

    They use the word "progress" to mask the regression from individual liberty and self governess to the ways of central power of the government. Liberal now a days is anything but.

    Conservatives should be compassionate, but with their own money and their own charity. There is nothing wrong with being compassionate. But really, we are not arguing here, we agree that Bush and Obama are bad.

    I didnt say we were the source of evil, it is very prevalant throughout the world. But to think our government has actually been a becon of light for everyone since the time of killing our own civilians and citizens and killing and enslaving many people from our own back yard to around the world is nieve. There hasnt been a time where the US government was killing someone.

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    Well, I think we need to start with cutting things not specified in the constitution to be funded by the federal government. Can we agree to start there?
     
  16. Consmike

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    This has nothing to do with spending on things we care about. It has to do with the fact that soldiers take a job, with that job comes benefits, when the benefits are cut or not given, then there is a problem.

    But yea, lets keep the people who sit on their asses at say the DOE and let them keep their high paying jobs while the vets suffer.
     
  17. Iriemon

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    If you don't care about it, why make the fuss?

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    OK. Where in the Constitution does it say that the government can pay for health benefits for retired soldiers?
     
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    He doesn't like the vets because he can't buy their vote. It is really that simple. He was educated in one of the most liberal universaties in the world and I would be that not one professor has ever served in the military. He doesn't understand that they are the only reason he can get away with the crap that he is spewing.
     
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    :ignore:And any time once in awhile it does report the truth you lefties just ignore it. In one ear out the other. Emptyheads.
     
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    :woot:Sort out? And where did he do that...on the golf course?
     
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    I really have no clue why 0bama comes off as so callous and uncaring when it comes to our military, and Americans who put themselves into harm's way.

    Marines get killed in a mortar accident, and 0bama tweets "Snack Time," as if he is so disconnected that when his soldiers and Marines die, he has no comment. Yesterday he was Johny on the spot to retweet Yko Ono's tweet of John Lenon's blood splattered glasses. Then he is AWOL during the 9/11 attack, not even curious about a life and death battle with his diplomats in Libya.

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    :nana:Well you know we wouldn't have to raise spending that much. Get your nitwit leader to stop sending money to the Muslim Brotherhood and other countries that hate the U.S. and cut spending on items like studies of Fat Lesbians and start spending in more appropriate places like this. Tell them to get their priorities straightened out.
     
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    :eekeyes:Where in the Constitution does it say that the gov't pay out money to countries that hate us?
     
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    Better than putting 4500 soldiers to death and wounding 39,000 others on a guess
     
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    Where exactly should a junior senator from Illinois have been on that day?
     

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