Time to enact pressure cooker/backpack controls.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by CRUE CAB, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. godisnotreal

    godisnotreal Well-Known Member

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    risk of suicide, and homicide/manslaughter of you or your family go up if you own a gun.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    To anyone with a 4th grade education, this was a pretty easy read. If your struggling, send me a pm and I'll explain it to you on the QT so you don't become embasrrassed
    intent of the framers was also based on the Magna Carta these are statements that fueled the formation of this nation. But I like the one for A. Lincoln. Better go read them. But in your state of mind, you'll nay-say them away.
    Funny how pro-libs deny everything and discount it as a lie. ...........that'd be you
    Before you pick a fight, best to have at least read the Magna Carta.
    I've already used mine in self-defense and would do the same again.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    you could only hope and pray for something like that to happen. What a thing to hope for. Tellme , are you bothered by visions of dead people too?
    Had gun for years and nothing has happened. No suicides, no manslaughter, no homicides(psssst over 40 years)
     
  4. godisnotreal

    godisnotreal Well-Known Member

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    The govt treats ownership as a conspiracy to use. That's why you are arrested even if you attempt to own WMD.

    Uh--in virtually every supreme court case, Scalia, and the conservatives cite founder's intent as their justification for their decision. If you read the decisions to any case (take Heller, for example)--pages and pages are expounded on what the intent of the founders actually were.


    Democratic governments don't always do things that are supported by a majority of people. But they rarely do things that a strongly opposed by a large majority of people (like 70-80% opposition). Today, the nation is about a third for Obamacare, a third against, and a third who don't care.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    Our laws do not extend to your miserable piece of dirt. Your population is a fraction of ours. Why do you still have 550,000 to 6 mil unregistered guns in your country? Doesn't that make 20% of your population criminal who are not in prison? Wait, didn't you guys murder a national treasure?
     
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    godisnotreal Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad that nothing has happened to you. But that's not true of everybody who owns a gun. Studies have shown that if you own a gun, and that gun is used to kill someone, the people most likely killled are either you or people in your family.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    go back and read #146 again, There's your intent for SCOTUS

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    Wow!!! I've never met a shufflin' statist before
     
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    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    So... If it's not the gun itself that's the issue, it's the people who operate the gun that is the problem? Why not agree to background checks then? At the very least weed out those who should NOT be using a gun. Or are you afraid you may be disqualified?
     
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    CRUE CAB New Member

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    So, if people are not dying of homicide. Then why is ,everyone on the left, so dead set on taking our guns?
     
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    CRUE CAB New Member

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    Because criminals dont buy guns were there will be back ground checks.
    What part of that do you not understand?
    I really wish you people would just come out and say you want guns banned, confiscated and destroyed.
    Not all this fence sitting, half in half out crap.
     
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    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    I am not against guns as a whole, I understand it can be a sport like any other sport, a dangerous one but a sport nonetheless. My issue is that those on the right don't want a background check for all. Why is that such an issue?
     
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    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    Now, now... Temper temper... People who can't have a civil discussion shouldn't engage in one. And if that's the case, then yes let's ban all guns. Either meet half way. Or don't, kind sir!
     
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    No true at all.
    Most gun owners and the NRA supported the instant check system that has been in place for about 20 years.
    Most gun owners dont complain about the wait periods, 3 days here in Florida.
    What most gun owners dont like is the fact that most of the ones that fail the instant background checks, never get contacted by local law enforcement as to why they were trying to buy a gun if they were a felon?
    And if not for reasons of being a felon, explain themselves.
    So we are going to have another background check that will do nothing except interfere further with legal gun owners.
    The systems are a failure not at the gun owners level, but at law enforcement level.

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    So telling it like it is, is having a temper? Wanna ban them? Come get them.
     
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    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    Oh, so because it's an inconvenience to you and fellow gun owners you're against it? Well that explains it all. God forbid we make it harder for people to get guns...
     
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    What's your stake in this debate? Are you from here?
     
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    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    What do you mean if I'm from here? Here where?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure I disagree but, then, I've never seen firearms used artistically except to demonstrate their original design purpose.

    EXamples?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, there are only, I believe, 7 states that submit mental health data that can be used for background checks. This law would have corrected that.

    Second, if you're going to throw all the loons in hospitals, who's going to pay?

    Third, no one here has demonstrated a legitimate use for a firearm that does not use its designed function. That is to kill, threaten killing, practice killing, or demonstrate proficiency at killing. You're not going to use your ak47 to dig a hole or your glock to drive a nail, or your shotgun to carve a turkey. If you want to alter my end of the conversation you need to demonstrate that alternative legitimate use.
     
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    CRUE CAB New Member

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    And that is what you loons want. Everyones medical records to be fair game for the government to play fast and loose with.
    You want every prescription med listed on peoples records so any side effect can be used against them to keep them from owning guns.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Guns are not designed to kill and when operated safely do not kill or injure anyone.

    What is your point?
     
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    background checks require a data base with registered citizens. Congress cannot do that and it is illegal.
     
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    CRUE CAB New Member

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    Actually God did forbid it.
    Its a God given right. Inalienable right. Read the Bill of Rights one day.
     
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    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    I'm not saying to get rid of all guns... I am simply saying if you deserve to have a gun, after a thorough background check, sure. Have the gun. But not until after a background check. I asked why its such an issue to have a background check, and so far the only reason was because it'a an inconvenience. There has got to be a greater reason.
     
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    there you go with that word...deserve......chum, it is a RIGHT...................
    I stated it before....it is backdoor registration and that makes it illegal............why should the government know who has what when they don't answer to us for their criminal activity?
     
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    Since it's a "right" lets give everyone a gun then. :) and I do mean EVERYONE.
     

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