Time to enact pressure cooker/backpack controls.

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  1. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    We must ban all pressure cookers over 2 liters and all back packs.
    Back packs must be made clear if they are going to be made at all.
    I mean, its for the children.
     
  2. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Careful....you will be called all sorts of irrelevant names and told how it's not the same thing....You risk alienating those pesky lefties :wink:
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why?

    Neither object is designed by its manufacturer to kill people and when used according to manufacturer instructions will operate safely and neither kill nor injure anyone.

    Now if you'd like to talk about banning objects that are designed to kill people and that when used according to manufacturer's instructions do kill and injure people we can talk.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL how silly, A firearm is actually designed from an engineering standpoint to propell a spherical object down a tube at a high rate of speed, it has many non violent purposes and is more often than not used in non violent activities. However on ocasion it is used in a violent manner because of the intent of the human using it, that's when the uninformed call for its ban as if that would cease all violence toward other humans. I can apply the same interpetation to soo many other objects so in reality...your ship left without you...eh
     
  5. cjm2003ca

    cjm2003ca Active Member

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    because they kill people..we should ban nails too ..or make them out of cardboard from now on
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Careful now, don't inject logic....it doesn't sit well with antigunners eh
     
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    I wish I could "like" in tapatalk. I will buy you a beer if you are ever in my area. As long as you are over 21 that is.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that's what you think a firearm was designed to do you are invited to turn yours in at the next event.

    A bowling ball return mechanism is designed "propell a spherical object down a tube at a high rate of speed" but it is not designed to kill. Properly used for its intended purpose it will neither kill nor injure.

    Other than a "starter's pistol" what " non violent purposes" does a firearm possess?

    Target shooting? Demonstrating proficiency at the gun's intended purpose. To kill.
    "Pinging?" No different.
    Hunting? Please the absolute definition of violence.

    Outside of a "Three Stooges" short where a gun is used as a hammer (definitely not its intended purpose) I know of no use that does not require, as a minimum, the threat if not the actual implementation of violence.

    As i said, and excluding starter pistols, guns, when used as directed by the manufacturer, kill or injure. That is their only reason for existence especially since the other functions (practice, pinging, and starter pistol) can be accomplished through other methods. Now if you've another use that does not include the use or threat of violence then, please, illuminate us.
     
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    you can take a pipe and a long spring load it with a nail and shoot someone right between the eyes and kill him or her..makes a cheap weapon..but works really good
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL You will have to explain tapatalk to me someday, and I am way way over 21. Beer is good. If anti-gunners drank more beer, ummm well they would drink more beer, sorry you can't fix stu....err uneducated.
     
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    WTH is pinging????? I thought that had something to do with checking internet speed. Now as a shooter all my life I'm being told I'm missing something. WTH is pinging?
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What nonsense are you speaking?

    Likewise for a gun....just cause you "project a gun is designed to kill, it actually isn't. The user actually gets to decide it's purpose. Sorry you miss that point eh. Now what if I hold a victims head in a bowling ball return mechanism until their brain is mush from the propelled spherical object....is the return mechanism designed to kill because I used it in that manner? Why I bet your answer is no eh? You can hold onto your misguided definitions or you can learn what any intelligent user of any of millions of inanimate objects already knows, it's the user silly, it's the user.

    WOW you don't know guns at all do you? Target/clay birds/ beer cans/ pistol, rifle competitions/ self defense are used far more often than your purported violent reasons. Please acknowledge at this point you have no real clue for all the reasons to own a gun.

    Yes and it is quite non violent and actually kills nothing. You do understand in a debate you are not supposed to make the opponents point for them eh?
    You really don't understand guns eh, cause you just proved it. LOL
    LOL see above
    How silly, your prejudice is showing. How about survival JEEZ where does the anti-gunner crowd dig up people like you?

    And you have made clear you have no desire to actually understand the implementation, your posts are perfect proof of that fact and my rebuttals have gone unanswered...eh

    I love your first sentence and it's key to your lack of understanding, "when used as directed by the manufacturer" (do you realize what you said here :roflol:) Why just the other day I was reading the manufacturers warning on a S&W and it said point at subjects head...sheesh you guys crack me up. I did see a program on the sportsman channel about a competition involving a target competition, suppose they were abusing the manufacturers warning hehehehehe.

    LOL I think I just covered all that quite nicely...balls in your court sport :)
     
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    a dewalt nail gun with the safety removed works awesome as a weapon too..loads fast and last a long time..i like the 16 penny the best
     
  14. CRUE CAB

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    Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, just got home. Been makin' a big deal outta makin' it to 50 TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Dats right young bloods, Five Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my god how did I make it this freakin far?
    The Jager was good, and the beeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssss were cold.
     
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    CRUE CAB New Member

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    If operated safely no gun will kill. I have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds, and havent killed anything.
     
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    Honestly, it really would not surprise me if the left some day required civilian buyers of pressure cookers to have some sort of special license. They love to regulate and control every aspect of our daily lives, they find all sorts of excuses.
     
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    If you think a firearm is not designed to kill then why not own a bb gun? It performs all of the same functions.

    When a firearm is used according to the manufacturers instructions it will kill or injure. That is its sole purpose.

    If you know of another purpose that does not kill, injure, demonstrate proficiency at killing and injuring, or threaten to kill or injure, I'm listening.

    Till then you're simply rationalizing away your personal responsibility for the murders you enable.
     
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    The problem is that we determined, about five or six decades ago, at the prompting of Hollywood (see all of the horror story movies about mental institutions), that it was inhumane to institutionalize our lunatics (apologies to all of the mildly mentally disturbed, I do not mean you) and that we must care for them in the community in the least restrictive setting possible. So now, we confine no one and they all have access to everything that the general citizenry has. In fact, we have gone so far as to determine that we cannot even reveal to the general citizenry which of its members has mental issues. So we are covering it up and protecting the privacy of those who pose a danger.

    Sooo, instead of the horror story mental institutions that we had five or six decades ago, that horror is unleashed upon the public. If we wish to save the lives of the innocent, then we must pursue mental health and let the light of day into the mental health records of people who should be considered potential threats. We must offer more and better mental health treatment.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And?

    A carrier air wing will practice thousands of sorties without shooting at a single enemy. Does that mean the military's purpose is not defense?
     
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    I challenge you to find an instruction manual put out by a manufacturer of a firearm that says its sole purpose is to kill or injure.
     
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    You have an issue with me defending my self and family?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I challenge you to produce one that states that the purpose is not to kill.

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    with a pressure cooker?

    Or with something whose sole purpose is to kill, injure or threaten same?
     
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    With anything I feel I need to do that with.
     
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    If I find one, will you promise to find one, or admit defeat on this topic?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I offer to negotiate?

    Find one.

    Your the ones making the claims that they have other purposes.

    Haven't produced one. not a single one.

    so, find one.

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    Did I offer to negotiate?

    Find one.

    Your the ones making the claims that they have other purposes.

    Haven't produced one. not a single one.

    so, find one.

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