Time to enact pressure cooker/backpack controls.

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  1. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    at last...............we agree
     
  2. CriolaBrazuka

    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    It was sarcasm. But sure. Let's hand out guns to everyone who makes it through the boarder. Anyone who gets out of jail, give them one too. You pay your taxes, gun for you as well. It doesn't matter who you are. You want a gun, you can get a gun. After all, it's a right. A right just like your right to live.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    again, we agree. Listen, those who break the law, get punished. You want more than that.....you want to make everyone else liable for a few stray cats....................typical lib thinking..............
    witchhunt, I believe is the correct word
     
  4. CriolaBrazuka

    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    Liberal thinking? You're being quite liberal by saying you want everyone to have a gun, regardless of their past. That to me is being liberal.
     
  5. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    No one on the right has said that, but you just keep lying.
    And you wonder why your boy Obama is losing credibilty.
     
  6. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, that is the paranoia that the NRA drive in you.

    A fellow I know suffers from chronic depression.
    Just 4 weeks ago his medication fell out of balance and he suffered a psychotic episode.
    He tried to get out of my car while it was going over 60 mph.
    By the time I got him to his doctor he was delusional, couldn't recognize me, his family. He was certain he had committed a terrorist act. He was sure he had harmed his grandchildren and murdered his wife.
    He spent 2 weeks in a hospital under court order.
    He's better now.

    If he wanted, he could walk into any gun shop and buy any weapon he wanted.

    I'd rather he not.
     
  7. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absent killing a firearm has no purpose.

    It can be used to kill.
    It can be used to threaten killing.
    It can be used to practice killing.
    It can be used to demonstrate proficiency at killing.

    If you know of any other use for a firearm that does not include these, please, illuminate me.
     
  8. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Target shooting and competition. Are pretending to be an authority on the subject again?
     
  9. CriolaBrazuka

    CriolaBrazuka New Member

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    "Your boy" Mr. StJames actually agreed that that's would work. So are you saying you don't agree with him, or you don't agree with everyone having a gun? Which is it? If it's a "right" then all is fair. Now I'm confused! :)
     
  10. CRUE CAB

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    So because he was lax on his meds, you want everyone to not own guns.
    You also never said he was violent nor had violent tendencies. Just because he had an unfortunate episode dont mean the first thing he was going to do was grab a gun.
    What about if HE had been driving? You going to take his car away?
     
  11. CRUE CAB

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    Protect me and my family.
    Number one reason I own and carry.
    And you are backstroking, you say "can" now.
    Not "only" like you usually do. May be help for you yet.
     
  12. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you mean practicing killing and demonstrating proficiency at killing?

    - - - Updated - - -

    You mean to threaten killing.
     
  13. CRUE CAB

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    Threatening to kill who?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A. In his state he would not have known what he was doing. If he'd had a gun?

    B. They did, in fact, take his car away as well as his freedom until they determined he was no longer a threat to himself or others.

    He could go out and buy a firearm today. then, next time his meds screw up.......
     
  15. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    don't know yet.

    won't know till you do.

    till then, using it to hammer nails? carve a turkey? cook dinner?
     
  16. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    Then here is the 800 pound gorrila you types forget.
    Its his personal responcibilty to own or not own a gun and to drive or not drive or to stay on his meds correctly.
    Thats his job, not the governments. And not have me suffer when he blows it.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Nope. Do you have anything else to add, or are you going to continue moving the goal posts?
     
  18. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    He has been talking in the same circle for a long time.
    Must be getting dizzy by now.
     
  19. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    suffer how?

    By having a background check?

    How is that suffering?

    That isn't even "infringe"

    unless, of course, you're a criminal, or a terrorist, or a gang member.

    they might "suffer"
     
  20. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've made the same request over and over.

    No movement.

    demonstrate a use for a firearm that does not involve killing, practicing killing, threatening killing, or demonstrating skill at killing.

    Please, illuminate me.
     
  21. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    Keeping a lawful gun owner from buying a gun, possibly in a time of need of one, is an infringment.
     
  22. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Those things are no more practice of killing than my driving is practice for hit and run, evading police, or reckless driving.

    Try again.
     
  23. CRUE CAB

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    Who cares? If I am defending myself or family. I have the right to "kill" as you put it. And I have the right to "practice" killing an individual that looks to cause us harm.
    I also have the right to shoot my weapon recreationally if I so choose as well.
     
  24. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've not proposed taking that "right" away.

    The OP thought he was making a brilliant argument by saying pressure cookers need to be regulated because they can be made into bombs so just like guns they need to be regulated. I claim the argument is invalid because the designed purpose of a pressure cooker is not to be made into a bomb but to cook food whereas the designed purpose of a firearm is to kill and that a firearm has no other purpose in its design.

    to date, none of you has demonstrated a single use for a firearm that does not include killing.

    That does not make a firearm good or bad, it simply is what a firearm is.
     
  25. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope. your car's designed purpose is transportation. Hit and run, reckless driving, and other activities of that sort do not fall within the scope of a car's designed purpose. Your firearms' singular design purpose is to kill.

    It would be as if you used your loaded gun as a hammer to drive a nail.

    Try again.
     

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