Those who want to defend the indefensible will search high and low for an example that fits the agenda, your post is an obvious case of just such a hunt. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...salisbury-plains/story-e6frea83-1226605752365 What would Chili sauce have done in this case as a defense weapon? Or maybe this situation: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/15357427/gun-used-in-yokine-robbery/ Or maybe even this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME07z9y6zwA Oh and what about this one?: http://www.australiannews.net/index.php/sid/213758291/scat/88f7d0d02bea1b33 or perhaps this one: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...bery-in-wallaroo/story-e6frea83-1226370602939 Or maybe even this one: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2eb_1340853962 or : http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-in-north-sydney/story-e6freuy9-1226301081740 or http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...t-man-in-robbery/story-e6freuyi-1226023699726 Keep in mind these ALL happened in the country where guns are supposedly banned!
Only if he resisted. That is the big advantage of a gun as a self defense weapon. It is very possible to use a gun in defense without being forced to hurt someone. The same cannot be said about most weapons, like the baseball bat or the hot chili sauce pot.
Well if you only have chili to defend yourselves. Good luck. I guess you think we should all walk around with a hot pot of chili on us. Instead of a gun. - - - Updated - - - So, when you take on being a criminal. Bad things, like getting your head blown off, may happen.
A never ending attack on people that own guns on this site.... Its fairly sickening to be honest. Almost gotten where I don't even bother reading the nonsense. Then, after I do I find myself at awe that there are actually people that think not having guns is a good thing.... I mean, I understand that guns can come with dangers, but honestly to say EVERYONE shouldn't have guns is absolutely crazy.
I disagree - all too often in the heat of the moment anxiety/excitement etc can and does cause accidental firing and unfortunately the outcome is a LOT worse than some chilli in the face http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1010518212001060'' In terms of absolute injury - bit like the difference between spilling tea on your leg and having it chewed off by a croc. - - - Updated - - - Why? Why a LETHAL response? Why a response that will cause serious harm to the other person? Just above you in this same thread is someone telling me that just waving the gun in the air will somehow, like fairy dust, make it all magically better.
Strawman argument Where is the attack on gun owners? Where is the call to disarm? What I and others have been saying is that self defence can happen without a gun and that the media reports things differently in different countries - - - Updated - - - Why? Why a lethal response?
An Israeli settler at a bus stop was stabbed and had his gun taken away from him last week. His settler friends were not impressed when the attacker shot at them with his stolen gun. So much for defensive gun use.
http://www.examiner.com/article/arming-teachers-worked-for-israel-and-thailand So much foir disarmed citizens eh?
Sorry - both areas are borderline war zones so arming teachers there proves..........................................
Your chili sauce is sooooo much better than Australia's, you should share your recipe. Good post - - - Updated - - - arming people against bad people works.....anything else?
A good guy/gal with a gun stops a bad guy/gal with a gun. Next............ - - - Updated - - - More people in the Chicago war zone need weapons to defend themselves against the armed evil.....did you really mean to ask this question?
How long did she stay on the phone asking 911 if she could legally shoot the intruder instead of leaving the house? I think she should have removed her baby from harm's way... like a good parent would have done. She's lucky she didn't get charged with murder.
How silly, was there another way out, how long did it take the cops to respond, if she ran would the bad guys run her down, how well could she run with a gun and a baby, She is a Great parent, willing to do what it took to protect her baby...more than an unarmed parent could do eh? OH and it wasn't luck she didn't get charged...it was the law baby Silly just plain silly comments coming from the antigun.
I liked many, many of the posts here...a favored strategic choice promoted, some had their weapon of choice others were forced to make do, many successfully. I'm for the choices that each is comfortable with. Who wouldn't love to pull a Three Stooges routine like Mel Gibson (in original Lethal Weapon) but that truly is the movies. Bad actors (the ones defined by criminal codes) are much less cooperative and can be viciously unpredictable and when the word "cut" is referenced here it may have the finality of the final curtain. Been unarmed in an unanticipated firearm confrontation ONCE...did not enjoy the disadvantage. I make my choices according to my comfort level. I'm comfortable with using BowerBird's chili sauce if its at hand and I'm feeling Hollywood however I carry Wolverine's hot sauce all the time (it has a better sighting system). Never wanted to use it just appreciate the liberty to choose it. To each their own.
And that there separates the law abiding citizen from the imaginary citizen that dado, BB and others want to use as examples of the antigun, crap flavored Kool-Aid drinkers examples of what happens when the 2A is followed. Good post Dix
Strawman. Really??? What's that supposed to mean? Who am I a strawman for? I couldn't care less what you or anyone else thinks about me having a gun. I live in a country where that is allowed because a lot of people have fought and died to make sure it happened. You have continuously voiced your opinions AGAINST guns on this forum. Why is this thread any different? THERE is the attack on gun owners, THERE is the call to disarm. Some people that have guns might not be the Einsteins of the world, but they aren't all stupid. (In fact probably not as many of them that are idiots as gun grabbers) Nonetheless, most can understand when someone pokes them in the face and tries to compare what we have here in the US to what you have in your own country. Again, I say it's sad. We want our guns and we are keeping them. Don't like it, then too bad but don't come to America (or sit in your armchair at home) and try to make us something we don't want to be.
Someone breaks into your home, you kill them and you think there is going to be a murder charge??? What country do you live in???
My question to you, and what should have been your question is...... "How long did she stay on the phone with 911 waiting on them to get there to do their jobs and protect her, BEFORE SHE HAD TO SHOOT HIM". You see most people don't WANT to shoot anyone. Its just not in our human nature, but if you corner even the tamest dog and poke him long enough..... He's gonna bite ya... Charging her with murder???? Its called self defense. If these stupid people that don't want folks to kill them would stay out of their houses and stop robbing people, then their chances of getting killed by a "crazy person with a gun" would go way down. Of course that's not saying all deaths with guns are caused this way, but it would definitely reduce the numbers..... Personally, I have no problem with those numbers since the ones dying are just sucking up good air anyway.... It's the innocent ones that I'd like to see reduced which I feel could be accomplished if more people were willing to protect themselves.
Right so would spilling tea on someone's leg generally stop them from attacking you if they wanted to? Chewing off a leg would be much more effective wouldn't you say? So let me get this straight, you are asking why use lethal force against someone who is attacking you likely with the intent of causing you serious injury or death? I just cannot beleive that you are seriously asking that question.
It's very fishy. These Castle and SYG laws are being abused. Those guys were knocking for 20 minutes and then spent a while trying to open the door. She had ample opportunity to leave and take her baby from harm. Instead, she chose to stay and ask the dispatcher if she could shoot him. She asked this several times. Since she said that she knew one of the intruders, I think she had a vendetta. It's a shame that her baby was kept in harm's way while she looked for an excuse to shoot the one guy (she didn't seem to have a problem with the other guy). She wasn't a "crazed person with a gun." She was calm and calculating.
