Egypt will no longer take all the water of Africa

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Wars are good at killing people, not controlling them.
     
  2. Gilos

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    Yes, try to hide your jelousy please, its embarrassing to bystanders...
     
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    watch out! there's a jew under your bed.
     
  4. Abu Sina

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    I doubt Egypt will copy Israel who stated they would bomb Aswan dam.

    Egypt will go the international UN/ICC/ICJ route in declaring war on an enemy cutting off it's only water supply and let the international community take it from there.

    The Ethiopians have the excuse that the international treaty of the Nile was signed during the occupation of Ethiopia by Italy and the Ethiopian government who signed it was not representing the Ethiopian people. So the International law experts say that the International treaties also include the borders of most of the African countries by the various occupiers especially Ethiopia because the current borders are not the historical borders of Ethiopia.
    point 1
    They want to take what suits them from the International treaties and they want to not abide by the others they do not like also if Ethiopia gets on with what they want cancelling the treaty of dividing the water share the Nile countries Egypt from it's side has the same right to cancel the Suez canal treaty which was also signed under the occupation of Egypt ( which Egypt abides to ) because it was signed by the Egyptian government and the countries must abide by their international treaties.

    Legally Egypt has all the rights to the Nile water as per the historical rights that was given to Egypt according to international law that governs the share of water between countries who share an International river like the Nile.

    Ethiopia does not use much of the Blue Nile water as they already have climate rains and enough water from other sources. They are being encouraged by Israel to compromise Egypts water supply to make it weaker and they are investing in Ethiopia to do this and financing projects to do this as just one of the many spiders webs they spin causing friction between countries.

    IF Ethiopia insists on following Israeli plans and restrict Egypts water then not only will it be a war declaration but Egypt can close Suez to enemy states and that would be Ethiopia and it's partner Israel and all the others involved in this plan.

    Ethiopia should be very careful in getting involved in Israeli intrigues who would not think twice to drop them as soon as their usefulness runs out.
     
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    Probably because Egypt has 70% of the region's population. Or thereabouts.

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    Probably because Egypt has 70% of the region's population. Or thereabouts.
     
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    or.. maybe they have 70% of the region's population because they get 70% of the water?
     
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    I can speak for most Egyptians when I say that we have no problem with this project as long as it doesn't harmfully affect our economy or populace but if it does then we'd also be fine with going to war or at least blowing the damn thing up.
     
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    I dont think you understand the concept of a dam. They dont "cut off" the water supply.
     
  9. free man

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    Wrong ! Ethiopia has around the same population as Egypt, not counting the other 6 states in the way of the Nile.
    Taking population into account, Egypt is entitled to something like 20% or less of the water.
     
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    Here's a question, Why the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you so invested in this issue ? Why is Israel constantly stirring things up. What purpose does manipulating and messing with your neighbors give you other then providing you with some short term gains. While insuring that long term survival of your country becomes less of a possibility.
     
  11. Marlowe

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    I don't know whether that's in fact Egyptian Govt's position , but does anyone know exactly what percentage of Nile waters flows wastefully into the Mediterranean Sea ?


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  12. Abu Sina

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    wrong

    The other countries have rainfall

    Egypt has almost zero rainfall

    The Gulf countries have more rainfall than Egypt
     
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    Why do you think the 'Peace pipeline' was finally cancelled in 1986?
     
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    In CA the Northern part of the state has most of the water and there are still fights over water even though it is 1-state. I can only imagine the conflict between separate sovereign nations where such a natural and required-for-life resource like water is concerned.
     
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    Desalination plants. Egypt can pay for them by charging us $2M each way to send a carrier through the Suez instead of $1M.
     
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    THere's also the possibility of combining the Desalination plant with the oft talked abt canal from the Med flooding the Qattara depression creating another vaste inland sea .

    see :
    Mediterranean-Qattara solar-hydro and pumped-storage development

    http://archive.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/80858e/80858E0a.htm

    also :

    http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Qattara-Depression-Egypts-Future-4416024


    .... Depending on feasibility studies the Oil producing countries might consider it as sound investments.


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    koranimals can't do anything but blow stuff up. I'm surprised the Aswan Dam is still there. Not to mention the ancient stuff.
     
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    The Muslim Brotherhood should get the Star of David out of their backsides, and so should Abu Sina. There is no evidence whatsoever that Israel has anything to do with the construction of the dam. The financing seems to be mainly Chinese and expat-Ethiopian while the main construction company is Italian (Salini Costruttori). Just where does Israel fit into this picture?

    Why not blame it on the Copts? After all, they and the Ethiopians are both Christians, right?
     
  19. Gilos

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    It measures the amount that enters its borders, if its less than the accepted amount than someone is stealing water, all in all 70% of that water is what Egypt expects to get.

    Send your farmers to school and educate them to use modern irrigation methods.

    The Zionists command it.
     
  20. Gilos

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    Its the other way around, Egypt rejects other countries request to pump more water out before it reaches Egypt, and that rejection legality is questioned.
     
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    I think in this case its a question of Legitimacy of the cause of war, if suppose the UN will somehow decides the 5-7 states along the Nile should get a total of 40% of the water and Egypt just 60% than sending squads to bomb the dam will be terrorist attack, if the UN will ask of never ending negotiations (probebly will) without a decisive declaration and war breaks out than blowing the dam is a military op in war.
     
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    Buy Mineral water from Italy, case closed.
     
  23. Gilos

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    Sorry, what does Israel has got to do with it ???
     
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    Hmm’ war over water, is it terrorism or justifiable homicide? Personally I feel if someone went to war to (steal?) water its the same as killing someone for their water. I suppose it would depend on ownership. And if we are speaking of mans law (Positive law) or Natural law, i.e. laws that are instinctively known or bestowed by the philosophical 'god' as not to add a religous element to this debate/discussion. So I believe that statement/question (of is it a terror attack etc) is near impossible to answer, at least to everyone’s satisfaction! Actually IMO its impossible to even answer the question accurately, due to the ‘subjective’ nature of the issues involved. I.e. moral truth. Ha ha diametrically opposed words I believe. Being Christian I do think there is moral truth however an atheist etc may disagree for reasons given above.

    reva
     
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    This has been going on since the 1980s... The plan was to divert water from the blue and white Nile and pipe it to Israel..

    It was called the Peace Pipeline and raised a real stink.. because it would have contributed to the desertification of Ethiopia and Sudan.
     

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