Are homosexuals created in the image of God?

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  1. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He didn't deceive. He bribed, and said the workers were essential. They were.

    That's what justification is--trying to make a right out of something wrong.

    Here...this might help: http://voices.yahoo.com/kant-categorical-imperative-perfect-vs-imperfect-121344.html
     
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    Going by the movie, they were essential for the production of artillery shell casings which Schindler took pains to make sure were useless, in which case he most certainly did deceive the Nazis.

    But never mind that. Had you been a Christian in Nazi Germany, would you be truthful with the Nazis about the Jew you knew was living next door?

    Not necessarily. It can also be explaining why something perceived as wrong is actually right, which is what happens when those falsely accused of crimes are acquitted in court.
     
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    Two gays are not in the image of God? Says who?
     
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    Who says two gays are an image of God? Surely not God.
     
  5. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I am not saying that they shouldn't some sort of universal morals/ethics (See The Moral Landscape.

    My argument is that an idea of universal morals are not demonstrated in the world.
     
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    if only because we cant find any examples of a god talking
     
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    When you say god it can be lots of things , you see the image of God is different for a gambler it can be luck even if he says he is a Christian and he gambles a lot and says chance is with me he believes in chances.

    But thats another topic .

    To your question homosexuality in my view is sort of a deadend for those persons who select homosexuality.

    Some scientist says its genetic but i think its all about your brain.

    Our brain is complex as it can get it is complex like the whole universe ,

    one of the reasons of being homosexual is probalby the kid is raised in a boy environment probably a single sex school but this doesnt changes everyones opinion about sex , some people are addicted to sexual activities and try other things they want to do the both way so they select homosexuality too

    lets get back to your question If you think its created in the image of God. Probably yes since he's been the creator of all things he created them and if you belive in destiny and faith yeah most likely they were created in the image of god.

    But you can say that god put us all here to test us and if the guy turns to be homosexual you cant blame god for that .

    Two ways you pick.
     
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    People have been doing all the talking and they talk so loud too loud that they can not hear God.
     
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    Do you 'hear god talk'?
     
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    Dumb question. even dumber thread replies.

    All mankind is made in the image of GOD. but the Homosexual lifestyle is a choice one makes. Just like smoking crack. It's a choice.
     
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    So what made Mary Cheney "choose" to be a lesbian...having Dick for a dad? :)
     
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    now that is funny!!!!

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    thanx and good morning
     
  13. Bishadi

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    If we didnt have a choice of what we do with our bodies (mass), we would not be conscious.



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    Homosexuality is not a God given trait. sorry. that's a FREE WILL choice, even though it's a stupid one.
     
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    i agree.

    I have zero issue with recognizing that bumping donuts or even the male sword fight, aint an instinct, nor a requirement to be happy.

    Same sex intercourse, is a self serving action that each 'choose' or they are getting raped.

    Heck, i would bet it is the victims of pedophilia, rape and the BS of being lied too, that the majority if not 99.999999% are even homosexual.

    And in EVERY case, the homosexual intercourse, is a choice by one or both of the participants. It aint nature/god that created the same sex intercourse, for the conscious mind. It's a mistake, that the ignorant and liars create.



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    Yes I have.
    And you? who have been talking to you or who have you been listening to about such things as there is no God? or do you believe there is a God and if so who told you so? or homosexuality is normal? Are you getting your informations from some other spirits? or from other humans? surely it can not be from yourself some one must be feeding you with information who is it or what is it?
     
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    you have yet to prove the latter part is the case

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    People have been doing all the talking and they talk so loud too loud think this applies hear
     
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    Can you ask god to post up on the forum? We all have lots of questions.

    Nope...... I wouldnt lie to myself on such matters.

    I have read the literature, myself. No one told me what to believe as soon as I realized that religious adherants are the biggest liars.

    I learned (evolved) with understanding and knowledge and personally know 'god' as nature itself (our everything).
    No one.

    I did the homework and sustained the integrity to be honest, first and foremost, by myself.

    homosexuality is learned, just like beliefs and religion. For example: you learned how to mislead and false witness, from others and do not hold personal responsibility as a priority over belief.

    Words are in a sense, a spirit. You learn it, then is affects you, your mind, your soul, then your actions.

    For example if i yelled 'fire!' in a grocery store, what 'reactions' would occur, from the use of 'the word'? (all learned)
    all knowledge, including 'words' themselves are manmade

    i am an "I" and equal to any alive, ever to exist. No one is feeding me information and why, even today I am still learning

    even from you (why i hate liars).

    The problem with the idiots, is that they actually believe, based on false witness, that they are incapable of understanding. You actually think that "I" could not know truth.
     
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    You are losing me and it's not because somebody put something into my drink.
     
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    The simple Christian answer to this would be that the world is “fallen”, IMHO an unfortunate expression, but I guess you get what I mean:

    The belief that there are eternal universal moral values, doesn’t mean people, not even religious people, exactly know what they are or that they’d be able/willing to adhere to them, if they did. As I said: on optimistic days I feel that we progressively get closer. On pessimistic days I think we’re just as foolish as we always were. But while the world still is a mess I’d certainly rather live in the 21th century than in the middle ages.

    You may not want to share in my eschatological hope of “apokatastasis” and universal reconciliation, (i.e. that eventually we’ll both know these eternal morals and adhere to them), but here you go: that’s the hope I hold.
     
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    it means, that 'idiots' have been led to believe that they are not a part of 'the garden'.

    funny,

    i just gave you the universal laws on good and bad and you got lost

    So it aint just religion that has failed but the integrity of 'people' is failing.

    really?

    And so when truth slaps you in the face, will you know it?
     
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    I came home last night and told my girlfriend I was actually homosexual.
    first she got angry, then she turned around and took it like a man.
     
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    that's on my signature, as of today

    thx
     
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    The truth is: I found that any discussion with you is not worth my while. You are too far out in a world of your own. Have fun there without me.
     
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    i do....

    I rather enjoy sharing, while blowing out the ignorant.

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