Ask a Jew, what do we do?

I certainly did not

 

Or with other words: You are not a Jew - so you are not representing Jews, while Moishe3d is a Jew and Jews are representing Jews - whoelse should?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36EM4aCWqjQ

 

Not quite, Moish represent moishe, who happen to be a Jew.
I represent Free-man.
There are many Jews that Moishe, not only not represent, but claim they are not Jews.
There are other many Jews who disagree with Moishe on many things.
In short, Moishe can express his views and enlight us a little what some or many Jews think, but cannot represent most or all of them.
Just like anu Jow does not represent christinanity, or any Muhamad you talk to in the street does not represent Islam.

 

Who is representing Jews?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7VG00lGjug

 

It's a straw man argument on your part.
I do not claim to represent all Jews.
I am trying to explain what Torah observant; Orthodox, Jews believe or practice.
And, I have explained previously that we are, indeed, in the minority of those on this planet who are, indeed, Jews according to Jewish Law.
It is rather silly to try and create meaningless false paradigms just because you don't care for my point of view...

 

You quoted the wrong guy for that comment

the straw man, is the anyone suggesting that you speak for any other but you!

I know that. You are a 'who' not a 'jew'.

i thought that you said, that you were NOT an othodox jew, but that the definition of an orthodox is closest to what people may find as a ewe. (in my own fun loving manner)

there you go with that 'we'

the false paradigm is the fool that believes 'zion' is a place in jerusalem or that 'god' is an uttttttter thing.

But that's changing as I am sharing what is real. No 'we' involved.

 

Let me argue that you are not "Jews according to the Jewish law".
There are many who claim that claim, with different views.
As I've written in the past, there are other Jew faction who claim the same and some of them are not even considered Jews by you and some you will not agree with what they practice.
Some examples:
The Shomronites.
The Karaim.
The Habad faction who think the dead Rabi is the Mashiach.
The Braslevs.
and many more (and those are just orthodox).
The law, you observe, and very carefully so is orthodox Jew law according to your own rabi's.
It has been in the main stream of Jewdaism for many centuries.

 

Mr Moishe,...

I would appreciate your criticism of people who see the connection between the Christian Eucharist and the Fifth Cup at the Seder of the Last Passover.


Every Passover at every table, that full glass of wine, the 5th cup on every Seder table even today, had people wondering whether it was right to drink it or discard it, and always the matter of waiting for Elijah was mentioned.

This question existed for so long that the Cup gradually became special and rather ornate, even called The Elijah Cup.
The Jews still differ today on the matter and still await Elijah to answer them.

The fifth cup problem was argued long before 32AD.
So complex were the arguments on both sides that LONG before 32AD, the rabbi agreed they must wait for Elijah to officiate.
Elijah, aka Christ, did so and we call it Eucharist.

 

I lost my train of thought in the thread transition, so I'll start something else here.
I came up with the plot for a movie the other night. It's about a rabbi who takes his extended family to the Oklahoma territory in 1890. They get massacred by bandits but a Native American tribe saves the rabbi and his wife. While they recover the similarities of their cultures blend in fascinating ways.
Two questions:
Is there a true story similar to that?
Which Native American tribes have cultures similar to Judaism?

 

Unless you are using Joseph Smith and the Twilight books as your source, the answer to your questions are no and none.

 

What do you think of this?

[video=youtube;ErzqyYMXqOQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErzqyYMXqOQ[/video]

 

No but I am sure you can find a bunch of examples in the middle east, europe and asia where the muslims and even hindu, did save many of the jewish adherants from everything from the inquisitions thru to the nazis.

Heck, i dont believe that judaism would exist as a religion if it was not for the example you shared but with muslim adherants being them natives.

I am not a real lover of the dirt kissing belief system but 'god itself' (nature) has experienced more compassion to others from muslims, than anything that i know of by the religious adherants of judaism.
Think about it!

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Alright, let's get simple.
If a Jewish family and a Navaho family met for dinner on a Wednesday in 1890 what would they eat and what would be the seating arrangement/

 

pork chops

and the men are fed, in most indigenous of that period.

 

Not much.
What do you think of it?

 

You have a peculiar point of view. The Samaritans (Shomronites) do not consider themselves Jewish.

Again, not Jewish

Different point of view. So? I disagree. If they continue their particular beliefs, they will, indeed, no longer be Torah observant Jews next generation. That's the way it goes.

I love Breslav. Great Jews. Fun people.

Samaritans and Kairites haven't been Jewish for 2,000 years.
Chabad and Breslav are two very Orthodox Chassidic Jewish groups who are doing great things in This World!

Roughly speaking, for at least 15 centuries....

 

Do you mean since the establishment of the Talmud?


Practically speaking, can you tell us how Torah as Law differs from Muslim Sharia of today?

 

I am a Jew, a learned Jew and Moishe doesn't speak for me. actually ask Moshe what Rashi said about evolution.

 

Actually, I meant since the establishment of Christianity and the destruction of Israel.
But, the advent of Rabbinic Judaism will do also.
I know you like the whole "Talmud Jew" thing but, the fact is, things change. You also appear to like a variant of Christianity which didn't exist 2,000 years ago. Apparently, someone came up with some new religions - Christianity; Islam; etc....

Nope. Other than what I read, I am not familiar with Sharia. There seems to be a very wide variety of opinions on what is Sharia - depending on ethnicity and sect.
And, Islam has no connection with Torah or Jewish Law. They don't believe that either are connected to G-d.

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Rather than me having to Google it up, can you just tell us? I'd be interested.

 

Sure they don't, they consider themselves as he true followers of the Abrahamic religion. A religion, which according to their point of view was distorted by those who are called today Jews.
Frankly, I find their story more compelling. They kept the old habits. They use the true Hebrew writings, while Jews changed to Aramaic.
They stayed in the holy land, while Jews spread all around.

I disagree. Jews have done great things for the world 3500 years ago and again 2000 years ago. But the last 2000 years had been down hill.
In recent centuries there are indeed many Jews who had done great things for the world, just to give some examples:
Spinoza, Einstein, Freud. But most of them not religious and none in the name of religion.

 

It is very different.
For example: The Muslims took the basic Jewish prayer "Shma Isael" which goes (my own translation):
"Listen Israel, the lord, our god, one and only god."
and they added: "and Muhammad is his messenger".
Now this prayer the the "Shanda", which is the act you have to do in order to become a Muslim.

 

Only those Jews? For the last 2,000 years? Downhill?
Surely you jest.
The mind boggles at what Jews have contributed to this world in the last 2,000 years, both the religious and non religious.
Your viewpoint seems a tad narrow....

 

Sustaining the belief that the jewish adherant are the 'chosen ones' by god, is what put the bullseye on their foreheads, for that same period

Your viewpoint seems a tad narrow.

It is what the egyptian pharaohs passed on to 'judaism' (inheritance rights, by god).

ps.... 'jew' is a religious adherant and is not nor ever has been a bloodline

 

Aside from the personal attack, can you provide some facts to establish your claim ?

 

Don't be silly.
http://www.jinfo.org/
http://judaism.about.com/od/culture/a/contribution.htm