Pro-"Life" = More Abortions, More Death

Gotta love Anders' "logic"

"Brazillians support abortion...but Brazillian politicans can't make it legal because it would be unpopular".

 

How is being motivated by a belief to save babies somehow sexist?

 

Not at all, Sam.....I'm sure Grannie would support your full right or any man's right to become pregnant, and give birth or have an abortion, same as I would.

 

Because you're unaware, and unwilling to be made aware, of the cost of "saving babies" to the women whose bodies are used to create those babies. You are perfectly willing, no eager, to legislate when you cannot understand the impact of that legislation and will never have to endure the results of that legislation yourself.

 

So abortion in Brazil is okay with you because it just happens to be "widely accepted?" Brazil is a Catholic country; over 60% of the country is and if it were "widely accepted" then it would stand to reason abortion would be legal. Brazil, unfortunately, suffers from the inhumanity of a well organized pro-"life" who is too disillusioned to make abortion safe and legal.

But Brazil isn't a poor country; it is a BRIC country. And there are poorer countries, like South Africa, which have seen dramatic reductions in maternal morbidity through the legalization of abortion. And there isn't plenty of "licensed abortion clinics that will still do abortion" because it is illegal. Once again, pro-"lifers", such as yourself, just can't take responsibility. Blame the Brazilians, blame the economy, blame politicians but never blame the pro-"lifers" who support these dysfunctional laws.

 

Find a "legal" abortion clinic even though the procedure is not legal?! How is that even possible? Most abortions in Brazil aren't happening at clinics but at home; by taking under-the-counter medications, most commonly misoprostol, an anti-inflammatory used to treat ulcers. The 2010 University of Brasilia study found that a drug is used in at least half of illegal abortions in Brazil. You pro-"lifers" make some of the most desperate and bizarre excuses to explain why reality just doesn't work in your favor.

Where is your sanctity of life?
Where is your culture of life?
Where are your crisis pregnancy centers?

Brazil is the one fruits of your labor...why aren't you proud about this?

Even that is very difficult. A woman can't just go to a doctor and say she was raped; she has to prove it to the authorities first.

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Since when? More abortions are happening in Brazil.

 

Then why on earth do you want to close down PP clinics in the US when it is the main place young women, especially the poor, go to get a safe abortion in the early stages of pregnacy???????

 

Look at this....

"and many women go to unlicensed substandard clinics in the poorer rural areas because they do not have much money. There are plenty of licensed abortion clinics that will still do abortion, even if it is technically illegal, but they cost more."----Anders Hoveland


Did Anders just admit that if abortion was illegal in the United States, as in Brazil....it wouldn't stop abortion???? And that such a ban would primarily only inconvenience poor women?

Did Anders just become....me???

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As you can see below, feminism means equality. I don't know what the name is for people who believe women are superior, but it isn't "feminist."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/feminism

fem·i·nism [fem-uh-niz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.

 

In theory, feminism is about equality. However, lots of feminists have double standards.

 

You mean like so called self righteous pro-lifers then yes.

 

The Impact of Illegal Abortion




A Fact Sheet from the Abortion Access Project


Historically, women around the world have tried to end their unintended pregnancies whether abortion is legal or not, often jeopardizing their safety and health by self-inducing or seeking a dangerous illegal procedure. While there is very little relationship between abortion legality and abortion incidence, there is a strong correlation between abortion legality and abortion safety.
•The World Health Organization (WHO) defines unsafe abortion as a procedure for terminating unwanted pregnancy either by persons lacking the necessary skills or in an environment lacking the minimal medical standards or both.1


•Estimates of the annual number of illegal abortions in the United States during the1950s and 1960s range from 200,000 to 1.2 million.2


•Of the 46 million abortions occurring worldwide each year, 20 million take place in countries where abortion is prohibited by law.3


•Prior to Roe v. Wade, as many as 5,000 American women died annually as a direct result of unsafe abortions.4 Today, abortion is one of the most commonly performed clinical procedures in the United States, and the current death rate from abortion at all stages of gestations is 0.6 per 100,000 procedures. This is 11 times safer than carrying a pregnancy to term and nearly twice as safe as a penicillin injection.2


•According to the WHO, in countries where abortion remains unsafe it is a leading cause of maternal mortality,1 accounting for 78,000 of the 600,000 annual pregnancy-related deaths worldwide.3


•Approximately 219 women die worldwide each day from an unsafe abortion.5


•Six months after abortion was legalized in Guyana in 1995, admissions for septic and incomplete abortion dropped by 41%. Previously, septic abortion had been the third largest, and incomplete abortion the eighth largest, cause of admissions to the country's public hospitals.6 One year after Romania legalized abortion in 1990, its abortion-related mortality rate fell from 142 to 47 deaths per 100,000 live births.7 These are examples of the positive impact legalizing abortion has on women's health.


•Legalization of abortion allows women to obtain timely abortions thereby reducing the risk of complications. In 1970, one in four abortions, in the United States, took place after 13 weeks gestation.8 Today, 88% of all abortions in the U.S. take place before the end of the first trimester.4

http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/book/companion.asp?compID=100&id=20

 

How do I have double standards?

 

How about attacking pro-choicers for "using personal insults"....and then suggesting that prometus was "drunk"????

 

To be fair, I asked if he was drunk after he suggested that soldiers deserve to die because they were invading other countries.

 

Pro life - same number of abortions, more death due to abortions being performed by dodgy backyard abortionists.

 

What if women want to obey the law, or they are afraid of getting caught?

 

Death of what ?

Hate to burst your bubble but we can not exist without killing life. Do you weep as you munch on carrots thinking of all that innocent life you are killing ?