"I Love Being White"

I was standing behind one of the Aryan nations types at wal-mart not long ago covered in a assortment of white supremest tattoo's...it must of been awkward him for buying something as everyone working there was a brown skinned immigrant...

 

ignorant is what you are when you can't comprehend something as simple as my post...

what? are you 10 years old? The Civil Rights Act was only passed in 1964, the people who opposed it are still alive today...coloured people are still denied jobs, accommodations, vote restrictions today because of the colour of their skin....the laws may have changed but the racists have not...

because the sickness that is racism is still defended by people such as yourself ...

no it's you who is trying to hide amongst those who have nothing to be ashamed of, I'm white but I want no part of you dirtying my heritage...

so again you display only the most remedial reading comprehension...

 

You found one guy that I had to look up to even know who he was and used a picture of Edward Norton from American History X...... a movie.

Were you just desperately trying to find something to back up the hypothetical there? Or what was that?

No, I get out plenty. Apparently, this stuff all just happens in places I've never been to. Like blue states. Or the imaginations of liberals.

Sacrificing countless lives to abolish slavery wasn't contrition enough? That's about as sincere as it gets. The slaves didn't free themselves. Many men chose to lay down their lives to free them because they believed in doing what was right. See what I mean? Where is the gratitude for what's actually been done? It's like you can't even see it. You're too consumed with resentment. Because that's how you've been taught to think. Our culture pushes resentment because angry people are easier to control and manipulate. Ironic, isn't it? You've traded shackles on your body for shackles on your mind.

Forgiveness isn't required for anything other than for one's own peace of mind. Do you realize that? The person who forgives is the person who ultimately benefits most from the act of forgiveness.

And technically, your take on forgiveness is wrong anyway. Since true human compassion can only come when you are even willing to forgive those who are unrepentant for what they have done. Which is why we have Christ's line about, "“Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

I'd hit it.

 

Remedial? I do not think that word means what you think it means.

 

That's a huge leap of faith for some people, especially when it comes to these social issues. A lot of fools out there will look at that T-shirt, and even though they see it says "I love being white", it registers in their minds as hate speech. Because it's more than just peace of mind, it's World Peace. Without the will to forgive, all they possibly can to is the habituation of recrimination.

 

Obviously troll bait. On ignore

 

Actually, a LOT of people are prudent enough to view a person wearing that shirt as a possible threat. And in a world where SO MANY people think they are 'clever' with their racist hatred, it makes good sense to let a person like that PROVE their worthiness... well before trusting or accepting them.

Considering the SOCIAL history and realities of living in America, why ignore or implicitly 'trust' anyone who would wear such a phrase on their shirt. I mean, a similar effect for me would be to walk up to a person (no matter their ethnicity) when I'm meeting them and saying:

"Hey, do you realize I'm Black and I'm all about myself?"

or

I'm certain that a shirt with, "I love being Black." on it is not the most appropriate or positive way to communicate with others in American society.

As a military man, I've been around this world and been briefed on a few local customs and courtesies... the 'equivalent' of wearing a shirt like that would be readily frowned-upon or strongly discouraged. Personally, I think that if one is trying to be a good ambassador for what's decent about them (as a human being or their culture) would surely avoid wearing apparel with any such message emblazoned upon it.

 

And this is why most of these people will waste their entire lives being unnecessarily miserable. Because they are stuck in prisons of their own making, and they can't even see that the only person who holds the key to release them is themselves.

Uh oh, did I ask you something you couldn't answer? Quick! To the ego-protection escape hatch!

^See, now that's trolling. Learn the difference, will you?

 

do you think he's the only one?

 

I think he's part of a tiny minority, yes. Are you prepared to prove otherwise?

 

Nothing wrong with it but of course butt hurt peo

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Nothing wrong with it but of course butt hurt people would get offended.

 

he's an exaggerated example of the tip of an iceberg

 

An iceberg you want people to believe is real but have no evidence to support. Which means it is likely just a figment of your own imagination.

 

I don't think it's guilt at all, I think most of it is fear, not guilt.

If I'm afraid of being found out as racist, I'd be quick to give up the trappings of power to minorities. I'd be afraid of using slurs, I'd be afraid of offending, I'd be afraid that expressing that some of my ancestors did some really cool stuff a long time ago would make me sound racist. For that matter, I'd be afraid that teaching my kids that stuff would make me look racist. That's not guilt. Guilt is a sense that you've dome something to harm another person. Just me personally, but I don't see evidence of that, as I see little willingness on the part of the supposed "guilty" to make changes in their lives that make a real difference. Show me a white guy who sells his house to move to the ghetto and gives the money to a black scholarship, that would indicate guilt, as he's willing to make actual changes to rectify the situation. Guilt drives change, if you aren't changing, you don't feel guilty, you might feel shame, or fear of being found out, or fear of punishment, but not guilt.

What actually happens, at least from my own observations is that whites are experiencing SHAME. What we've done for the most part is make being racist shameful, meaning that avoiding being outted as racist is important for our self-esteem. Look at how defensive people get when the charge of racism gets thrown out among whites -- that's not the reaction of guilt, of someone that thinks racist acts are wrong, but of shame, where doing bad things makes you a bad person, and therefore being a bad person is so damaging to ego (and socially to reputation, as no one wants to associate with a SHAMEFUL racist) that a white person especially will do almost anything to avoid the shame and the social stigma.

Which is the mode we actually tend to use in America when we talk about race? When someone is accused of racism, is he thinking "I'm a basically good person with a few misconceptions about race" or do they think "Gee, racists are automatically horrible terrible people, and if I'm even a little bit racist, I'm a Hitler in a Yankees cap"? The defenseiveness of the response is all the answer you need.

Again, exactly what we do -- we set up easy wins with racism. "I don't say (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)", or "I get offended at racist jokes" or "I read a book by a black guy once", or "I have a black friend". Those things are setups for an easy win and an ego boost. It's hard to have a lower standard for "not a racist" than "I don't say a word that is socially unacceptable for people like me to be heard saying in public". Unless you have tourettes syndrome or something, there's no way to fail that test. Getting offended at a racist (or otherwise bigotted joke) is the same kind of thing, plus an easy way to get an image boost as one of the "GOOD white people" -- it's not all that hard to be offended by a joke that everyone in this era finds offensive. Black friend is another one. First off, you get to define friend, which probably means that this guy is someone you hang around with on occasion, not really besties, but you hang out. But the more important part is that when you think of him, he's your black friend, which is to say that the most important part of your friend is that he's black (or gay or whatever) and not something like the sport you play together, or the fact you went to high school with him, or you work with him. He's black, that's what's important to you

I think racism is being held back by the need of people to have their egos protected. If being outed as a racist is a shameful, socially isolating event, people will do anything to avoid that event. If you'll lose jobs, promotions, friends, family, etc. if you're found out, then the very idea of being honest is too scary to deal with. So, instead of dealing with the racism that everybody has, we're hiding from it, and letting it run us. So people pretend to not be racist while quietly moving away when minorities move in, or in fighting against allowing kids from failing schools into their districts (while pretending that the obvious darkness of their skin has absolutely nothing to do with you not wanting them in your kid's school). Admit the bias, that way we can make choices to fix what doesn't work. Guilt would be a step forward, guilt makes racism the problem rather than the flawed humans who absorbed racism from the culture.

 

i don't care what people believe, all you have to do is look around to see plenty of racists

and of course racists deny it

 

...and very heavily concentrated in the right wing, no doubt.

 

Do you feel the same when Muslims come into your business? Not all Muslims are terrorists you know and not all neo nazis have gassed Jews. Not all blacks are ghetto thugs. But ill agree its human nature to be wary of groups you know are more likely to threaten your life. I dont see neo-Nazis doing much these days, but only you can say where you have fear and thats fair enough.

 

Ahh the leftist 6th sense, only they can see into peoples minds and know what they're thinking

 

It only takes a few to plant seeds that grow into massive ugliness. People SHOULD tamp-down the racist nonsense, before it grows. That is, be VERY vigilant on all related matters. To pretend that racism isn't a destructive force in this society, is an amazingly stupid thing to do.

 

This is impossible. It's like trying to explain what is individuality to a socialist. Look, with all due respect, and I mean that sincerely, no one is obliged to play the role of token for society and I think that you're confusing the intimidation factor of your military uniform with that of a T-shirt... The military instructs you about local customs of other countries because you're sent there to kill people, you see what I mean? Some kid wearing a T-shirt out and about, civilian-wise, that's not a threat. At worst, it's some jerk. At best, it's some chick and the T-shirt is wet. Guilt-tripping people about their race, that is racism, and that is not a white thing or a black thing, it's more of a socialist thing. To say, "I love being white", is to say "individual personage loves being group personage", same way as "I love being black" or "I love being [insert your color-coded race label here]", and while there's nothing inherently wrong with that, it becomes a tool for anyone who likes to play race-baiting games to instigate conflicts for whatever agenda they serve. Therefore, the threat comes from the beliefs in stereotypes, not from the T-shirt. If you're in the military, then you know about things like false flag operations, so if you want to be a good will ambassador to and from America, do a little research on Charles Manson, then you'll understand what kinds of BS we're dealing with in this country with creeps hellbent on starting race wars. Well, that's my opinions, dammit, and I'm not going to apologize for my rant.

 

i don't have to guess what people are thinking, here in mississippi people talk about it all the time

[video=youtube;E7e7vRFolQI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7e7vRFolQI[/video]

 

We're not talking "individuality", we're talking human relations. And whether we like it or not, we are going to RELATE to people in certain ways. Sure, one can be an 'individual', but unless you're on an island or isolated (ala Tom Hanks in "Castaway") what you say, do or wear will affect OTHERS.

I respect that people have a desire to express themselves as 'individuals' (I'm an artist, so I get that); but I KNOW that I can significantly affect how I relate to others, by how I "express" who/what I am. If I wanted to get under people's skin, I surely could do it.

And wearing a t-shirt which exclaims how GREAT one think/believe their "ethnicity" or "color" is, will not EVER communicate the best things.

I hope so.

You can have good human relations, or not. Your own choice. That is for certain. BTW, I don't wear my uniform in-public most times. When I do wear it, I remain cognizant of the signals I give off as a human being. But actually, I was referring to customs and courtesies and having a decent SENSE of the social environment in which one is placed.

It may change someday, but wearing a t-shirt that says "I love being White.", in America 2013, does NOT generally communicate good things.

You are wrong and you don't make sense. That is NOT what we do as modern military members. Sometimes we are there to fight/battle. Usually, we strive to blend reasonably withing the communities where we work. In many cases, we pride ourselves on how we manage to observe good public and human relations. But I'm from America, so I KNOW that many here don't care who/what they offend. It's something I don't particularly like about our society AND it is something that causes myriad problems as well.

Please, keep up and pay attention; I'm not talking about being a threat (though that is possible with a shirt like that one). It does not take a sociological genius to realize THAT phrase on a garment of any type... can and likely will be 'problematic'. At best, it's a STUPID thing to wear, IMO.

You should know THIS society's problems with race/ethnicity. It can easily go beyond being a "jerk"; VERY easily.

Sexual expressions, I get it. Advertising one's 'whiteness' (or other ethnicity in such a manner)... is very likely going to lead to problems. (Just like you should hang your private parts out of your clothing, in a restaurant. Some places don't even want you to come in with no shirt/shoes.) Again, if we all lived 'alone', what we do, say or wear would be no problem to anyone but ourselves. But reality would have it that most of us live within some 'community'.

They aren't 'guilty' of being what they are... but people ARE responsible for being aware of what they are doing; a lot like one's responsibility behind the wheel of a car. You may WANT to do or say something, but it really does not make it "okay" that you would do it. Of course it's not illegal, but socially... wearing something like that isn't very good at all.

Too much USELESS posturing and fruitless chest-beating; really. Even so, I understand that people WANT to do just that. I'm a man and I've been younger before. So be it. (But I don't approve of or encourage it.) It's not a White/Black thing; it is a HUMAN relations thing.

How do YOU want to relate to others; your choice. You contribute to the society in which you live. Are you going to have children growing up in this society; do you have friends of relatives that are or will be affected (ultimately) by the expressions you choose today? You may not think about that, but 'I' do.

I do respect your right to an opinion man; but I reserve the right to disagree with you on some of this.

It's simple: Just think of the reasons that it probably isn't a good idea to promote how 'awesome' one thinks their 'color' or 'race' is. The social implications are what should be 'considered'.

 

I could/would love all of those people. Still, people who think that way, make me somewhat happy the FBI, NSA and CIA are keeping a closer eye on us all. It's hard to trust folks who hold onto such symbols/values.

 

Ahh well if you hear them say it thats different to seeing it all around you.

Yes we do hear it all over the place,

Kill the Crackers, Kill them all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDb2byj74oY

DHS employee spends spare time promoting race war against 'whites'

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...moting-race-war-against-whites/#ixzz2czc9x9DJ

and in social media of "youth" before they kill whitey.

But we dont mind read what a person is thinking by wearing a i love blacks T-Shirt. Only whitey can we mind read.

 

no, it's not really much different, i often see people talking like dumb racists

you're delusions are amusing