Corporate Greed Kills

That's what I figured.

 

Let's be clear here, people have a right to what they produce. Honoring basic human rights is not a "break" it's called not being an evil little commie scumbag.

 

As soon as you stop idiots from seeing companies out of their own greed, I will feel bad for this woman.

Until then, this is just another good reason for tort reform.

Anyone want to post the Tim Robbins quote from Team America?

Maaaaat Daaaaaaamon

 

You misread the quote as I am now starting to think that you have misread everything in this thread, especially my comments.

The "break" I’m talking about are tax breaks.

You’re correct when you say that people have a right to what they produce and keep what they earn, but what you’re missing or just refuse to see is that the 1% in this country that literally have everything - have obtained most of it through ill-gotten means on the backs of people that have given EVERYTHING.......................HONESTLY, expecting nothing more than a fair wage and some sense of decency.

There is no such thing as an "honest corporation" my friend and if you think people like J. Paul Getty, JP Morgan or the Rockefeller or Hughes families obtained their fortunes honestly, your sadly mistaken. If you think that what Bank of America, Citi Bank, and Barcleys does on a day to day basis is honest.........your sadly mistaken.

If you think that what happens in the day to day business of most U.S. corporations is fair & balanced, or even legal your living in a delusional world.

You’re drifting off message and off the point.

It’s not Communist, Socialist or Marxists to expect the super wealthy to show some decorum of humanity & empathy towards their fellow man, nor is it Communist, Socialist or Marxist to expect the super wealthy to have a conscious.

If there is a company on this planet that has a cure, drug, patent or whatever else you want to call it that could save millions of lives or ease the suffering of millions of lives (regardless of how profitable that cure, drug, patent is) that particular company has a “moral” obligation to make it available to everyone.

I wonder where your compass would be if you or one of your loved ones lives were placed in the “casualty of doing business” column of a ROI spreadsheet while some bazillionaire buys his seventh $40.000.000 - 20 room estate.

 

The 99% get so many tax breaks half of them get more back than they pay in. Who do you think is paying the taxes to support all of that? And corporations get double taxed as the profits are taxed and then the dividends paid out are taxed again.

Speaking of living on the backs of others, we are creating a caste of people for whom welfare is a way of life who live parasitically off of the productive.

 

I don't see 'greed' as a motive here - how is denying someone the right to purchase a product 'greed', when it means they're losing out on a customer?

If anything I'd say that since it's an experimental drug, they're concerned that it may be harmful or potentially fatal - which could lead to sanctions or lawsuits against them if they allowed it for use and it had potentially dangerous side effects.

 

Please see my uploads above for more wordiness.
Again:
BioMarin hopes to accomplish studies they control to acquire FDA approval and big, Big, BIG Profits.
A bad record from this compassionate use release would hamper that effort.


Moi

I witnessed drug studies for Roche falsified at the V.A. Hospitals at two V.A. sites.
Results of those studies were eventually over turned but Roche made a buck in the mean time

 

she is going to die without it... so where is the harm in trying it? especially if the fda has given the go ahead...?


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Do you feel that way about the drugs the FDA hasn't approved yet but people want to try?

Has the company been given immunity from suit?

 

Would you consider the circumstances presented to them as ideal? How many lives has Roche products saved? Hundreds of thousands or millions? I bet millions. What is your favorite company? Or is the government your favorite place to shop?

 

Not ready yet??? What's the drug going to do, kill her MORE than the cancer will?

 

If the woman signed off on a waiver signed off in front of both her attorney and the company's attorney, that would satisfy the legal issue. At this stage of her life; what does she have to lose?

 

I'm always annoyed when I read reports about greedy corporations which kill people.Hopefully God will punish them in Hell!

 

Isn't amazing how so many recently approved medicines get withdrawn because they are heart stoppers?
We are addressing falsified studies. At one V.A. it was about Valium being non addicting and Darvon-N being non addicting and superior to Darvon HCL. At another V.A. it was about LAAM being a 3 times a week methadone like medicine that made those heroin and poly drug addicts lose desire for illicit drugs.
All the saved lives.
All the profits of non generic medicines such as Darvon-N for a few years.
The persons at the V.A. who acquired the grants where liars, cheaters and knew who was putting roast beef on their table.
A reasonable approach would be the investigators have no contact with the applicants. Triple Blind, sort of.

Comprende?


Moi

 

If you were in the middle of a billion-dollar, ten-year approval process, would you give up what little control you had?

 

Agreed...so long as I take this story at face value. The woman should obviously know that no business is going to let her take an unlicensed drug so...why.

And the company that is pushing the drug happens to be in the process of having it authorized. Story...woman wants allegedly cancer-curing drug to save her life but FDA holding her up because they aren't sure (and she isn't sure, for that matter) that this drug won't kill her. Gut reaction: Hurry up you evil FDA and push the questionable drug through to save this womans life???

It seems suspicious that a doctor would suggest a drug that hasn't been approved anyway. Why would he even do that? It's like garaunteeing a person with hopeless debt that they'll win the lotto. That almost sounds like malpractice.

Fishy...

 

Yeah medicine is a lot better these days. They can do amazing things. The free market is a beautiful thing. You see Michael j fox is making a comeback? Magic Johnson I think started another burger franchise this year.

 

Do you receive any reimbursement from pharmaceutical companies ? Just curious.

Michael J and some of the crew on his TV show were exposed to "Black Heroin", renown for producing Parkinson's.
And there was this little cluster of Parkinson's outbreaks among them.

His movement disorder is NOT Parkinsonian now. It is what is called, athetosis or athetoid.
He just adapts what he is doing to his body sways. This may well be the result of neurosurgery for Parkinson's.
The older surgery, not stem cells.
So whatever control he has is probably the result of surgery too and not just "Prescott Pharmaceuticals"

Meanwhile some great medicines have gone in the trash heap of popular therapy during my years.
1) Digitalis / Digoxin from foxglove for congestive heart failure. There is no substitute
2) Theophylline, for asthma, a cousin to caffeine. No steroids needed if a therapeutic blood level is maintained.
3) Colchicine for gout. Similar to digitalis, it has a unique mechanism of action not seen in other medicines.
4) Ergotamine / Ergot for true, classic migraine headaches

How is it they have gone to the trash heap of popular therapy? NOT profitable. Editorially dissed in favor of the newest high profit medicine for decades until they are dropped from protocols of Rx. And if you try give a heart failure patient Digoxin today you will be dressed down as trying to kill them with an arrhythmia seizure. A tried and true medicine now a killer. Imagine that.
Yup !


Moi, M.D. ret.

 

do you think she should die if there is a chance to save her and the fda has given the go ahead?

 

Profits? The stuff isn't even on the market yet because they don't know if it's safe or effective yet. What profits? At this point it all expense.

 

Why are we trying to make a business out of curing people to begin with? Our health shouldn't be dictated by what's in our wallet. Period!

 

I have gout and can no longer get the generic Colchicine at $.09 a pill, but I CAN still get Colcrys the brand name for the same drug at $4.52 a pill. The generic is being "re-certified" by the FDA. It read was the Obama administrations concession to certain drug makers for supporting Obama Care. Meanwhile, I keep my supply of Colchicine under lock and key using it to prevent flare up when I feel it coming on.

 

I was not aware Colchicine was available again at any price. You are lucky you found a doc who was willing to Rx it.
The only people I have met who acquired Colchicine got it at the University Medical School, not neighborhood care.
Colchicine was used by Benjamin Franklin.

The medicines available to us is a function of profit, not effectiveness. Witness:
Digitalis, Colchicine, Theophylline and Ergotamine.
Another favorite of mine is Ephedrine, Ma Juang, the parent compound of Sudefed (pseudoephedrine).
Now only available in proprietary mixtures such as Bronkaid. I use to get 1000 capsules for under $10.
It gives me better relief against side effects than Albutertol the more modern substitute.


Moi

 

Well for starters because people don't work free and I shouldn't have to pay for your healthcare.

 

The commies are coming! The commies are coming! Straight out of the right wing playbook of the eighties right there. Archaeic thought patterns still infest the right, no doubt. It's not tough to assess why it is that the right has so many political difficulties and their failure to capture the WH repeatedly these days.

Keep it up!!! Thank you!!