Palestinian murders IDF soldier in West Bank

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  1. Thehumankind

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    If the motive of killing is intentional and deceptive
    then it qualify as murder.
    It's quite too nasty now between the Israelis and Palestinians,
    and perhaps as it always does.
     
  2. Gilos

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    You realize that hundreds of thousands of Eastern Jews came to Israel right ? they didnt leave because they enjoyed living there so much, the fact the Muslims became aggresive after the creation of Israel doesnt add any suger to the fact they abused the Jews that did nothing wrong, they were'nt part of the war, they had to run, my wife's family originly came from Iraq where a vast Jewish communitty once existed, they had to run from enraged Muslims according to them, I take their word.

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    You mean in a peace agreement or just to throw money at an enemy ?
     
  3. free man

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    Very nice article, only aside from bad mouthing Israel it does contribute nothing about the false claim the west bank of the Jordan river is occupied territory according to international law.
    If you're really interested, got to the international law and find the definition there (which I bothered to do).
    Those lands do not stand in that definition.
    As for other countries, let me hint just a few:

    Turkey is illegaly occupying accrding to international law half of Cyprus for 40 years now. Did'nt see you cry out when the are busy in ethnic cleansing nor in setteling Turks there for 40 years.
    The UK is holding Gibraltar, which is obviously Spanish.
    Spain itself occupy parts of Morocco.
    and the list goes on an on ....
     
  4. Sherri Munnerlyn

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    Murder is more typically defined as an unlawful killing.
     
  5. Sherri Munnerlyn

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    A claim of a right to exist is not a right set in intl law. The Palestinians right to the land in Palestine is based on them being the indigenous people in the land and their right of self determination in the land, which is a principle established in intl law.
     
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    Right of the Palestinian people to self-determination

    The Human Rights Council,Guided(*)by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, in particular the provisions of Articles 1 and 55 thereof, which affirm the right of peoples to self-determination, and reaffirming the need for the scrupulous respect of the principle of refraining in international relations from the threat or use of force, as specified in the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Cooperation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, adopted by the General Assembly in its resolution 2625 (XXV) of 24 October 1970,Guided also(*)by the provisions of article 1 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights and article 1 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which affirm that all peoples have the right to self-determination,Guided further(*)by the International Covenants on Human Rights, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples and by the provisions of the Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action, adopted on 25 June 1993 by the World Conference on Human Rights,1(*)and in particular Part I, paragraphs 2 and 3, relating to the right of self-determination of all peoples and especially those subject to foreign occupation,Recalling(*)General Assembly resolutions 181 A and B (II) of 29 November 1947 and 194 (III) of 11 December 1948, as well as all other resolutions that confirm and define the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people, particularly their right to self-determination,Recalling also(*)Security Council resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967, 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973, 1397 (2002) of 12 March 2002 and 1402 (2002) of 30 March 2002,Recalling further(*)the conclusion of the International Court of Justice, in its advisory opinion of 9 July 2004, that the construction of the wall by Israel, the occupying Power, in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, along with measures previously taken, severely impedes the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,Recalling(*)the resolutions adopted in this regard by the Commission on Human Rights, the last of which was resolution 2005/1 of 7 April 2005,Reaffirming(*)the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination in accordance with the provisions of the Charter, relevant United Nations resolutions and declarations, and the provisions of international covenants and instruments relating to the right to self-determination as an international principle and as a right of all peoples in the world, as it is a jus cogens in international law and a basic condition for achieving a just, lasting and comprehensive peace in the region of the Middle East,1. Reaffirms(*)the inalienable, permanent and unqualified right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, including their right to live in freedom, justice and dignity, and to establish their sovereign, independent, democratic and viable contiguous State;2. Also reaffirms(*)its support for the solution of two States, Palestine and Israel, living side by side in peace and security;3. Stresses(*)the need for respect for and preservation of the territorial unity, contiguity and integrity of all of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem;4. Urges(*)all Member States and relevant bodies of the United Nations system to support and assist the Palestinian people in the early realization of their right to self-determination;

    http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/1C3E5A31FDF841FE85257B3600686148
     
  7. Gilos

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    Read the 181 resolution, read the UNSCOP report, both nations had rights and both were recognised by the UN, only one side demanded recognition for itself while denying the others - The Arabs. call it Karma or God's will.
     
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    But the UN did not implement the UN Partition Plan.
     
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    A country that isnt stolen .
     
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    Have you ever think why all the world kicked you out from their countries : ) LoL , you will never be good guys . You will end up so bad . You're a grasshopper and jumping continuous , bing ! bing ! bing ! but you know grasshoppers cannot jump forever : ) LoL
     
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    I urge you to try.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Ask the Arab leaders who comitted the Jewish Nakba , when 850000 Jews were expelled from their homes.
    BTW - Europe killed 6 million enlightened Jews, advanced, model citizens. In return it received 60 million Muslims - what a great
    deal Blahhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!
    Be patient - Europians will kick you out from their countries !!
     
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    Lions vs Hyenas LoL : )

    [video=youtube;Pda4zULB3EA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda4zULB3EA[/video]
     
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    Something that European immigrants to Palestine did not bother with.
     
  15. Gilos

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    No one hosted the Jews, they built what they needed with thier own hands, established indipendant trade etc'.
     
  16. Jack Napier

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    Yeah.

    You began smelting raw metals out of sand, and over the next 60yrs gave us all the wonders of the World.

    Sure.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Another example for Jealousy and hatred of the Arabs :thumbsdown:
     
  18. Jack Napier

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    Who hates Arabs?
     
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    Arab land, Arab hosts.
     
  20. Uri

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    Jewish + arab land.
     
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    Jewish Arabs.
     
  22. Uri

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    Or arab jewish.
    That works for me as well.
     
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    Dont worry , we will come there , I swear to Allah . Formerly there were thousands of jews in Chechnya and we cleaned all of them . You were always bad people : )

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    I would not give one toot about Jews if they were totally out of our politics, our media, our economy, law and academia.

    They have their 'homeland'. It has caused enough grief, bloodshed, and American and European dosh and free stuff.

    Want to have a Jewish dominated media? Not a problem. Go work for one of the many (or own one of the many) papers that serve Israel.

    Want to get into economics? Not a bother. Go to Israel. They have a central bank and their own currency. Work with that and only that.

    Want to get into those other areas? Israel have all of that. Go there. Fill all those areas with as many Jews as you wish.

    I shall bid you farewell and mean you no ill will.:handshake:

    Just please go away. Live your lives, but live them someplace else, or more accurately, get into those professions if you wish, but go make 'aliyah', or whatever the hell it is they do. Most will have anyway. Then go. Please. Preach Jewish stuff to Jews in the Jewish state. Fill the Supreme Court full of Jews. Have all the Israeli media owned by Jews.

    Jews would not have non Jews dominate Israeli media.

    Jews would not have non Jews dominate Israeli politics.

    Jews would not have non Jews dominate their economy.

    Jews would not accept a Supreme Court full of non Jews.

    And so on.

    Why should it be different for us?

    There is no difference unless you CREATE one.

    If it is okay for them NOT to want that, then it is okay for everyone else not to want it in reverse.

    After that, and as long as the free stuff stopped as well, and Israel put it's WMD under international safekeeping, as long as they kept a profile that related to their size, I would not give a toot about Jews.
     
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    blowback.
     

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