PF Poll: Should ObamaCare ACA be Repealed or OverHauled?

so government dispensing the medical insurance is better than keeping government out? So far, every program the government ever laid its hands upon has become over-bloated, under funded, and operating in the red. Every time some one mentions Obamacare, the costs go up............

 

Wow. A poll of PF shows a heavily conservative/libertarian bias. What a surprise.

 

it should be improved as we go, see something needs fixing then fix it, simple... fact is the current system was failing and we needed to address that

 

by far. every other industrialized country that has it is superior to the American system.

I agree with over bloated. the rest not so much.

everywhere it's been implemented costs have gone down

 

Obama wanted a Public Option, conservatives wanted a Individual mandate and a exchange, they got both... yet they are still complaining, we should go with the public option like Obama wanted

 

The beauty of a (*)(*)(*)(*) foundation, is when people build a house on it, demo is cheap and easy.

Random.

 

I've seen no evidence to contrary. The whole thing was a sham to begin with.
Repairing the damage and fixing the "buuuuuugs" isn't going to be cheap...........It almost seems to me that the whole thing damned near has to be rebuilt...and then there's that teeny-tiny "minor" issue about firewalls and inadequate security...........So, we've kicked off Obamacare, in the hole for the initial investment, plus the damage control and it is still not up and running. If the number of non-subscribers is any indication, I'd say it ain't real popular. I wonder what happens if the registration number fails...I think I saw it in here, 7.7 million need to pay before they [HHS] can take a breath.
People will only be lawed so much before they generally dig their heels in and tell the governors to back off.
Oct 7, 2013
enrolled: 7272
3 States...I am a bit perplexed about Kentucky....that doesn't sound right for all the news I get from Louisville...........
http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/Blog/2013/10/Three-states-wanted-to-lead-on-Obamacare

 

It's a website....relax. You're not undergoing heart surgery. It'll get fixed.

 

this was the republican stand in 2008

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/news/economy/tully_healthcare.fortune/

"(Fortune Magazine) -- Fellow Americans, choose your revolution. One way or another, we're getting a new health-care system. The old one is obviously broken. The U.S. now has 47 million uninsured, and costs are out of control. The Department of Health and Human Services predicts that if things continue as they are, health spending will almost double by 2017 to $4.3 trillion, or one-fifth of GDP, vs. 16% today. "

republicans wanted an individual mandate, a exchange and then wanted to end employer tax breaks for the insurance they give their employees

we can work together and make a plan that works for everyone, let fix the problems as we see them

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.and maybe not. If they don't get enough guinea pigs, it won't float. Typical of all government controlled projects and programs. I take it you've signed up and got your policy?

 

good article

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/rate_shock_the_gops_shameful_new_obamacare_lie/

"But conservatives didn’t have any interest in helping the remainder when the law was being drafted, and the only solutions they’ll entertain for the remainder now are ones that void protections for everyone else. Their tremendous outpouring of grief for young, middle-class people now comes couched in the false premise that the only available solution is complete repeal. You could counter that by any moral standard the system the Affordable Care Act creates is preferable to the one we had before, which subsidized the Ted Cruz family to the tune of thousands of dollars a year and left 50 million people without any coverage at all. But dollars to doughnuts their response will be off-point screeching about how Obama lied. Rinse repeat."

 

When Obama was running for president the first time 80% on here were libs. I wonder how many have converted. Obama is a joke I said it then and I say it now....

 

many of those were not really libs, they were pretending to be libs that supported Hillary

 

Neither; it should remain basically as it is, making adjustments to make it run smoother and to work out bugs in the system.

 

Mine won't change, and I'll get to keep it, just like the man said.

 

Basically this same poll pops up in alot of places and truth be told obamacare is going now where any time soon. Its gone through all the court challenges right up to scotus and it was upheld. To get repealed the republicans would have to hold all 3 branchs or <gasp blasphemy> compromise and hammer out a deal with democrats. There will be no deal to repeal obamacare.

So the way I see it, if its not going to be repealed any time soon why the hell doesnt the Gop and Democrats kick the kids <cruz and company> out of the room and let the grownups try to make obamacare as best as it can be for everyone and end this madness that isnt doing anyone or the country any good. Last I checked the gop has tried to repeal or defund obamcare 47 times and to date that are batting ZERO, time to rethink the strategy I would think

 

I would like to see a public option and dropping of the conservatives individual mandate

conservatives said ins companies would police themselves with an exchange, that we did not need a public option...

 

if obamacare is so much better, why aren't you buying his insurance?
I'll keep mine as well, but that may change in a time, and your as well. Thousands have been losing their insurance because of Maobamacare, dropped usually, being forced to suck Obama's insurance ass. You may end up there, just as much as I may end up there.
Remember, you'll be able to keep your insurance?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_...-booted-from-existing-health-insurance-plans/

Don't worry, it has some pretty pictures to go with the article just in case...............

 

I prefer the other alternative since there are no such Rights in the Constitution...let the damn thing[ACA] crash and burn

 

I am of the opinion that we need to do as is always done with large government led programs....improve the details as they show need. As of yet, the program is not fully implemented and thus any dramatic changes are simply jumping the gun.

One month into this thing is not remotely enough to evaluate results....let alone the entire years before it was enacted.

 

What happens if it doesnt crash and burn and gets straightend out, do you think both sides sitting down and trying to make it the best it can be is a good idea. Or just have people whine and scream about it till they meet their maker. I mean what is the alternatives here.?

 

If Republicans believe the ACA should be repealed, rather than bellywhinge about it incessantly, they would participate in the democratic process by which it became the law of the land. Elect advocates for its recension in sufficient numbers to follow the same proper legislative course by which it was passed.

Their primary allegiance to media entertainers will not achieve that, of course. They must actually find electable politicians that they can support, and participate in their election. If they typify the sentiments of most Americans in this or other matters, they will accomplish their objective. (Their settling on a presidential nominee that was the one Republican whose signal political achievement had been enacting such a plan is a mystery they have never been able to explain intelligently.)

Obviously, their fear is that the ACA will become as popular as its Massachusetts prototype before they can sufficiently promote their agenda, so they resort to their ineffectual tantrums. It may, or it may not live up to its model, but time will tell, not their antics.

 

Burnishing the ACA's rightist pedigree, my favourite, enthusiastic endorsement of nationalized RomneyCare was by TP darling, Jim DeMint on the GOP's television outlet:

[video=youtube;lCJxe7dp2rM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCJxe7dp2rM[/video]​

I guess they'll just have to screech that Dr Demento was a "Liar!" as well, or a closet


....................................."LIBERAL!"

 

I suspect the so-called 30 million who can't get insurance are a mixed bag of illegals and absolutely destitute. We have both in this society this all becomes more suspicious on the heels of immigration reform. The poor cannot afford their premiums or co-pays, so this now becomes a ruse to have everyone else pay for these people. We already have medical programs in place to tend most legitimate citizens who have neither the money or the means to get insurance to be treated. All Maobamacare is, is a socialist program to redistribute even more money. I don't have a problem lending a helping hand to those less fortunate, but I have a problem doing it at gunpoint. That's tyranny. If we took al the waste that government tosses out the window and reapply it to the healthcare issue, I suspect we wouldn't have to have such bull(*)(*)(*)(*) laws passed.
And if it is so wonderful , why in the hell is Congress and their staffs exempt? Maybe they know something we don't.............

 

More like 40 million and nice try on the illegals, its ALL minimum wage workers and anyone that makes a bit more than that who cant afford health insurance and YES illegal immigrants. Im with you on that btw.

We pay through the nose for the uninsureds health care and we have been forever. This is just simple math, an uninsured mother brings her kid to the emergency room complaining about stomach pain do you have any idea how much the govt pays for the indigent charity care. Id bet that visit costs 2500 plus after the hospital and Drs get done padding it with blood tests and xrays.
If that kid went to a family dr the cost would have been around 80 bucks, pay now pay later. Private hospitals DO not want everyone insured they will lose a FORTUNE on charity care that they have milking and padding for decades.