So tell me again why I should love & worship a God who orders genocide???

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  1. bobov

    bobov New Member

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    I've never understood the Christian idea that God is omniscient and omnipotent. Why? So far as I know, Christianity is the only major religion that insists on this (Islam?), and it's obviously caused no end of trouble. Christians who stub their toes must look heavenward and ask why. The Christian God is ultimately responsible for everything, and that means he's got a lot to answer for. Christians are left confused and anguished about what it all means. They're forced back on things like "God has a plan," "the Lord works in mysterious ways," etc. I love and respect my Christian friends, so it saddens me to see their pain and doubt.

    I much prefer religions like those of ancient Greece and Rome. When I say this, people think I must be kidding, but I'm serious. In those religions, the gods often didn't know what was going on; they could be deceived; they had human personalities, susceptible to vanity, anger, and cruelty; they fought with one another, and often acted at cross purposes; they had human favorites, and humans they didn't like; they often acted on whim; they were like a bunch of incredibly powerful human beings, full of flaws.

    Now think about the world as we see it. Which divinity provides a better explanation for what we see? The all-knowing, all-powerful, infinitely benevolent God of Christianity? Or the brawling, hard-partying, emotionally unstable gods of Olympus? Would Jesus create Auschwitz, or Zeus with a bad hangover? The ancient gods were gods easy to believe in.

    Even better, what about the Shinto religion of Japan, which says the Emperor is a god? No one in Japan needs to lose sleep over whether God exists. You could go shake his hand and get an autograph. That's a practical religion! So my condolences to all those hung up with theological conundrums.
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    I know you are bias because of your sexual preferences for advertising homosexuality along with general wide open sexual misbehavior by everyone, regardless that it murders people like the 1.2 million kids aborted every year, the teen suicides by fatherless kids, the violence of inner city murderers, raised by single mothers, and ultimate and ppredictable Muslim reaction that is the basis for terror causing the present wars and bomber events like Boston.

    But I am unconcerned with that self centered point of view which requires an attack of religion simply because these truths come forward as answer to the current event problems.

    Where is your conscience, in your pants????
     
  3. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    Q: "Why should I love & worship a God who orders genocide?"

    A: Because he'll kill you if you don't. Now shut up and make God a sandwich.
     
  4. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Do you know why?
     
  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    You have it backwards.

    People believed in sex, drugs, Rock N Roll as if the were serving Gods.
    People worshipped money so clearly that it was assumed Mammon was real God.
    Istar unvented lip stick to suggest oral sex was on the girls' mind, in there was something in for them.
    Gays attended to a life style so definitive that people wrote about the worship of Eros.

    The mythological Gods were invented to explain human behavior which was repeated in every generation, as if it was immortal and never died out.

    The CONSEQUENCES to come to the grand kids and their society made people realize another god really did exist, one which ultimately would demand that the Facts of Life be acknowledges as invaders smashed down one golden age after another,

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    LOL

    You have it backwards.

    People believed in sex, drugs, Rock N Roll as if the were serving Gods.
    People worshipped money so clearly that it was assumed Mammon was real God.
    Istar unvented lip stick to suggest oral sex was on the girls' mind, in there was something in for them.
    Gays attended to a life style so definitive that people wrote about the worship of Eros.

    The mythological Gods were invented to explain human behavior which was repeated in every generation, as if it was immortal and never died out.

    The CONSEQUENCES to come to the grand kids and their society made people realize another god really did exist, one which ultimately would demand that the Facts of Life be acknowledges as invaders smashed down one golden age after another,
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    My sexual bias is 5' 3" to 6', brunette, blue eyes, B-C cups, and average build.

    I have no idea how that fits in with your projections which stem from your own sexual insecurities.
     
  7. The Amazing Sam's Ego

    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    Genocide is not acceptable. The bible doesn't condone genocide.

    In the Bible, God didn't order the Israelties to attack the Amalekites because of their ethnic or racial status. Therefore, it was not genocide.
     
  8. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    No it is sad how you seem to have to convince yourself that you are right about the Bible. I am comfortable reading it as an Allegory you want it to be a true story.
     
  9. RedWolf

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    Love and worship who you want. Just don't be a dick about it.
     
  10. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You sexual bias concerns homosexuality which you support regardless of your personal sexual behaviors, which I could care less to know about or guess as to what they might be.

    For whatever reason, you defend the broadcasting what grown consenting adults do sexually so as to hurt the children are being raised in the present Western Culture.

    The fatherless welfare aborting illegitimacies that are destroying the nations and demanding Muslims resist the overt attempts to change the way their women behave is the reason for the terrorism, inner city murders, poverty, and high Taxes.

    Against these high crimes you think equal bad behavior for Gays is an important social priority,...

    LOL

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    ...meaning don't broadcast your sexual behavior to the minor kids who now expect to spent 14 years from age 12 to 26, when they think of marriage...?
     
  11. LogicallyYours

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    Because you have "free will" to, or not to worship a gawd who will can, and will condemn you soul to eternal hell-fire if you choose not!...Oh, wait....that didn't come out right....mmmmmmmmmmm.....Gawd is love.

    There.
     
  12. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The bible is right about sexual prudence in the name of the younger generation, avoidance of fatherless bastards, welfare of 41 Trillion annually now, single mothers raising criminal children, abortion of 1/3 of all pregnancies because the women are too dumb to protect against it, etc etc etc...

    And what for???
    So two men can proudly tell the world they masturbate each other???
     
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    Wow.,.just how many ways can you be full of crap! Don't you get tired apologizing for your mythical sky fairy?
     
  14. FirstTake

    FirstTake New Member Past Donor

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    It can also be killing a large group for religious or political differences, so it was indeed, genocide.
     
  15. RedWolf

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    Meaning love and worship who you want. Just don't be a dick about it.
     
  16. lizarddust

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    Tell me Dave,, is this your own interpretation or the word of your god?

    How were Neanderthals any more 'evil' than early Homo Sapiens?
     
  17. Heretic

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    What if the people God orders you to kill, are the epitome of evil, and will kill you if you don't kill them first???
     
  18. FirstTake

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    Animals and babies as well? Why couldn't the all powerful god just change their hearts?
     
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    Remember King Saul and the Amelakites.​



    Moi :oldman:
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Kirk: Why does God need a spaceship?
    McCoy: Jim, you don't ask the Almighty for his ID

    So you're OK with Nazis killing Jews? That is precisely how they justified it.

    Or do it himself. Bloody hell, he shouldn't even ASK, as he doesn't want me to get the idea he approves of that kind of thing. The whole idea of HAVING God is that HE takes care of life and death. Christalmighty, now even GOD wants us to do his job.

    Really, I do see the OP's point, so many Christians don't just think it's OK that God asked the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites. They're wondering why he couldn't have got all the ancestors of the liberals as well.
     
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    You posts make little to no sense.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    This IS the Religion forum.
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    The Amalekites weren't killed for religious or political differences. Read the Bible and learn what happened back then.
     
  24. GoneGoing

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    God said to kill them all, and then Saul would be king. Or, did I misread that? I mean, it's a really thick book and I get lost trying to remember which part is which, so maybe I'm mistaken, but, if God says to kill off a whole nation of people so that you can be king, you know, that's both religious and political.
     
  25. FirstTake

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    I have studied the OT with both rabbi and priest. I am aware of who the Amalekites were and why Israel attacked them, but do tell me your version.
     

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