So tell me again why I should love & worship a God who orders genocide???

The amalekties practiced child sacrifice.

Also, read this.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-violence.html#ixzz2jjijzLZd

 

It was not why Yahweh had them destroyed. It was revenge. The Bible states that they attacked the Israelites when they we leaving Eygpt on their way to the Promised Land, they were weak and Yahweh told Joshua he would have revenge one day, and acording to the mythos, he did.

 

Yahweh also demanded child sacrifice, there are several examples in the Bible, he even demanded a blood ransom of his son according to the Christian mythos. It was a barbaric, but common practice of the times.

 

If we infer the existence of god(s) from that of man, then the ancient gods were believable because they were human archetypes. The Christian God is so unlike anything human - his extreme inhumanity repudiates anything human - that it is hard to see any connection between us and Him. In fact, the essence of the Christian God is the negation of anything human. One wonders what could have motivated the founders of such a religion. Perhaps the intent was to make piety and salvation nearly unattainable. The continual striving and yearning that would result might have seemed a good way to discipline human behavior, which the ancient gods could not do.

 

I re-read that part of the Bible and still don't get it. What are you saying? The two points of the Bible story are that God wipes out infidels, and that seeming mercy, such as Saul sparing Agag, King of the Amelakites, is sinful because it puts God second. Be merciless in a just cause is the message. So? Besides, the God of unconditional rules is not what the 21st century Christian church is selling. Today's hip God is willing to overlook most things if you wink and say "sorry, big fella."

 

ah ha !

and now we know where all this twisted prurience and women hate is coming from. so to speak

 

Seems that God never intended for the Israelites to have a king, wanted them to have a system of government where each community appointed their judges to settle disputes and enforce contracts, but the region was unstable and the people wanted a strong central authority to take charge of the whole country. However, in order for them to have a king, the people first had to be completely demoralized. They go from being civilized to being uncivilized so that the opportunity is there to re-civilize them in a new form. It's like, oh, so you want to be the demigod of my people, then prove you have an ice cold heart of stone first, have the balls to be like God, who is the creator of death that comes for everyone and everything eventually, and then you get your demigod. And it worked.

 

So they made some thousand years ago war without any profit as our germanic ancestors made it often too. This kind of wars were existential wars - in case you lost such a war you lost everything - in case you wan such a war you wan nothing. Do you think it is better to earn with wars something - money for example?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWubhw8SoBE

 

The Nazis called Germans Aryans and although no one knew only a little what an Aryan is the people were proud to be Aryans and in danger to lose ones own life if someone was not seen as an Aryan. Mad - absolutelly mad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F7i47HXPAA
Translation: http://www.vevo.com/watch/walter-moers-thomas-pigor/im-sitting-in-my-bunker/DEC690600857

 

No they didn't practice child sacrifice.... Archeologist have learned a lot about the Canaanite religions.. The accusation is to demonize the "others" and keep the Hebrews from mixing.

 

That is very gay response because it ignores the facts about what sexual promiscuity does to a society.

But Gays, wayward teens, harlots (sluts), Hollywood, .... they do not care.
These people want what they want, because they want it, and the argue against the facts, i.e.; that what they want does hurt others,... but in the end, even if clearly it does hurt the kids and society, they still want it.

 

They Hebrew called sexually loose behaviors the worship of Baal and Ashtoreh, and they saw Molech as the god of teenagers who had to walk through the fires if growing up after 14 years sexual jadedness and all the tragedies attending it.

At the highest levels of society, among the most successful citizens, offering children as sacrifice at birth was what we call abortions today.

 

But why the god of bible did not favor those people concerned their sexual behaviors.

Living in close proximity, the young Hebrews were influenced by the sexual advances and enticement of the women living in these other tribes and ]societies.
It was very much as it is today with Islam, the patriarchies which the West is overtly and intentional trying to proselytize into Feminism.
Feminism threatens these cultures and the only response that is effective is force.

Sexual immorality broadcast and encouraged is virtually irresistible to young men who are influenced by their hormones at ages to young to reason with.

For these societies which are certain that the next generation of bastards will end them, force seems the only practical response.
But Christ recommended Truth, such as I ,and others here, have been hopefully sending out to you.

 

Even the babies???

 

They wanted the land and figured if they convinced themselves (and their descendents) that "God ORDERED us to slaughter the original inhabitants because they had been mean to us first"....it would make them look like the "good guys"???

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cupid, basic question....

would you have any problem with homosexuals being rounded up and exterminated, if you felt God was supportive of it?

 

BTW, is it a reasonable guess that many "Bible believing Christians" here....

never heard of 1 Samuel 15:3...or the Amalekites....or the Israelite genocide against them? And only now are madly scrambling to come up with an apologia for God for ordering it?

 

Evolution demands that man adapt to the environment or become extinct.

Broken families dangerously fails to make good citizens of the next generation which in the end, always has destroyed even the most prosperous nations.
One of the ways our species has been adapting is just this Battle of the Sexes.

Matriarchies rise up and patriarchies cut them down, eliminating one after another of the sexually promiscuous society filled with violence and criminals:



Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away (in the spirit of thought), into the wilderness (of my imagination) and I saw (as if) a woman, ...



.... (those who have Institutionalized a system of sexual seduction into a failed matrimony), sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (of a brazen and corrupt sexually misdirected economic system: [Dan 3:1-5]), full of names of (Pagan) blasphemy, having seven heads:
(which existed in (1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylon, (4) Persia/Mede, (5) Greece, (6) Rome (7) the whole of Western Culture to follow)...



... having ten horns upon these seven heads:
(1. Undivided Empire; capital Rome: [305 AD],

2. Western Roman Empire: (Romulus Augustus): [to 476 AD],

3. Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [1453 AD]

4. Charlemagne, [800 - 1000 AD]

5. Holy Roman Empire, [1200 AD-1492 AD]

6. Italy, [Renaissance, 16th century]

7. Spain, [17th century]

8. France, [18th-19th Century]

9. Britain, [19th-20th century]

10. Nazi Germany, [20th century])


11. America next…?

 

God just wants the Gays and the Straight people to never "ask nor tell" the kids what their sex life is about and pretend that they do not even have one.

This what Islam does.
Islam represses Gays and slutty behaviors so people think these things do not exist.

 

Oh, by sexual promiscuity do you mean all the harm caused by heterosexual stepping out of the marriage commitments? Funny, how do gays have ANY part of that being that gay marriage has just been allowed in some states in the last 5 years?

Like the ones you make up?

 

didnt god tell gwb he should invade iraq?

 

I always find it suspect when people quote the bible, but half of the "quote" is the narrator's interpretation which they overlay (as though it were the undisputed meaning).

 

So many people trying to make excuses about this part of the Bible. Here's what it should all really come down to: do you believe your god actually commanded the slaughter of babies? If so, how can you possibly consider your god to be a moral entity? If not, then it seems like this thread probably isn't for you.

 

Look what you did! You got him posting that same stupid, crazy thing he likes to post when his misogyny flares up. Shame on you.

 

Isn't that what you've basically been calling for, for several posts? What's the difference between YOUR view of gays...and Islam's?

 

It IS interesting how his posts on his fear and hatred of gays...have now morphed into his feelings of being "emasculated as a man, by women these days" mode.

Several quite obvious psychological issues are cropping up fast.