Fast food workers strike: Fire 'em all.

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Read the articles, you are dead wrong!
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    Nonsense. Pricing labor out of the market creates jobs? Any first grader can see the idiocy of that opinion.
     
  2. Whaler17

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    American workers who have a skill, any skill, are paid quite well. Why should unskilled workers be paid more than the value of their labor?
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    So I take it that you oppose easy immigration and allowing illegals to work in our nation unfettered? If not, you are contradicting yourself! Minimum wage wuld not apply to them and they would undercut your precious wage hike.
     
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    Who (*)(*)(*)(*)ing said otherwise? The claim was made that raising the minimum wage causes people to lose their jobs. That is patently false and the historical data proves it. NO ONE at ANY point claimed that raising the minimum wage would create jobs.

    Unbelievable how many people can't even follow along in a conversation.
     
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    and of course you have no way to prove what that labor is worth since the min wage is completely arbitrary , so continuing to scream that raising the minimum wage would mean paying them more than they are worth is MEANINGLESS.
     
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    If everyone who knows anything about economics knows its bad for the economy than why does nearly EVERY study on the subject say otherwise?

    Present your FACTS. Show me one single notable economist who has said that raising the minimum wage is bad for the economy.

    Of course you can't and never will. Your idea of "debate" is just to scream inanity after inanity while ignoring factual data and then claiming that the facts, which you have never and will never present, prove you're right. LOL
     
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    It can't be worth what it was in the 60s because our economy sucks, and the dollar is not worth what it used to be because of inflation.
     
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    Well, the calculations prove that the economy has nothing to do with it except that a minimum wage correction would stimulate the economy.

    I wish posters knew how the economy works before they post. Your comment really is completely wrong.
     
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    Exactly, Eliminate the mandatorybminimum wage, and we'll see EXACLTY what labor is ACTUALLY WORTH.

    I think good workers will have no trouble EXCEEDING minimum wage, as smart employers want to keep good help.
     
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    Worry about yourself. Let others worry about themselves and their neighbors. Avoid the fallacies of big government planning. It works sometimes, but often fails even more spectacularly and so is not worth the price in the end.
     
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    We saw that in the 1890s and in the last 30 years. Some of us have learned from history. The minimum wage has been around for 100 years so what history are YOU relying on?
     
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    That is so 19th century thinking.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously, "learning from history" is NOT what you are doing.

    Minimum wages allow for the underutilized to remain so,and saps motivation.

    It HARMS workers...it does not help them. It kills the concept of THRIVING.
     
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    Oh bull(*)(*)(*)(*). If for example mcd. Wanted to fire every employee they have who isn't aorth $9 an hour and pay the rest that much the min wage law doesn't stop them from doing so. Wonder why they don't?
     
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    Obviously, you throw out any comment with no facts attached.
     
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    Fast food locations in most of the country cant fire them all. They couldnt find replacements. Then the softarses that own them would actually have to work them to enrich themselves, instead of the lackeys they want to underpay so the govt can subsidize their payroll for them with our money with food stamps so their workers can "GASP" buy food.

    Yeah fire them all that will work.
     
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    Nonsense, everyplace has high schools and it sure wouldn't hurt the lil darlins to work part time at their local burger joint. After all, those are the workers min wage was designed for... not 35 yo losers who expect $15 hr cuz they're too stupid to find a real job.
     
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    They don't! Those are political hack "studies".
     
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    It has been proven to be bad for minimum wage workers who want to have a job!!!
     
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    So still no quotes from economists saying than minimum wage increases are bad for anyone other than those who have to pay more in wages?

    Ah the old "that study doesn't matter because its __________" routine eh? Funny that you can't come up with any study that counters them.

    Only a fool ignores the evidence presented by ten studies and by the way one of your cohorts actually posted a link from an 11th study that said the same thing. Slight decrease in new job creation after a min wage increase no loss in existing jobs.

    You guys act like mcdonalds or whatever is overataffed and will cut back to how many they need if the min wage is increased. That would be stupid. Any business has as many employee s as they neex to do the job no more no less. An increase in labor cost doesn't change that else every time one employee got a raise anoths r would lose their job. Duh

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    By who? You and other s spouting ignorant uninformed opinions that are not based in fact does not prove anything

    Rule 10 prove you facts or s top calling them proven
     
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    "evidence"? :lol: Funny YOU should call people fools!
     
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    Still no facts?
     
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    Dude, what is your issue , for real? I've produced more facts than all other posters combined on this topic. Your dislike of those facts does not change that I DID present them.

    You on the other hand, have produced NONE. Not a single (*)(*)(*)(*)ing fact.
     
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    Right.

    The Entrance Level Min wage averages with assistance managers and managers which raise the average.

    By raising the Min Wage, all other higher wage earners will receive similar increases appropriate to the level they have risen tp.
    So, the entire work force will suddenly have more money every week and spending will increase.

    That means the GNP will rise and head towards the goal of $20Trillion which is the number that will return the economy to the state is ought have reached were it not for 911 followed by 2008.
     
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    You miss the point here, that a min wage is paid to a % of the US work force, some of whom never make much more, but the wage itself sets the reference mark for all other wages above that figure.

    We assure a fair distribution of the growing GNP by making certain that the Min Wage is based upon the Law of Supply of Labor and Demand by employers for that labor, but is fixed intentionally to raise as does the economy expand and other wages rise.
     
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    The Record Is Clear: Minimum Wage Hikes Destroy Jobs



    In a comprehensive, 182-page summary of the research on this subject from the last two decades, economists David Neumark (UC-Irvine) and William Wascher (Federal Reserve Board) determined that 85 percent of the best research points to a loss of jobs following a minimum wage increase.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/04/17/the-record-is-clear-minimum-wage-hikes-destroy-jobs/


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