Avg McDonald's employee wage: $7.73. Ave hourly wage of McDonald's CEO: $9,274

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  1. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Stuck in a rut? Not all minimum wage workers flip burgers..:wall:
     
  2. reality1

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    Because your definition of need may be different than mine. I will pay my employees based on what value they provide my business and nothing else.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Let me rephrase

    " don't make a career based of a job that takes the intellect of a 7 year old "
     
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    Continuing education is stressed in the officer corps of the services. As much as 40% of your time is spent on (RPME) Reserve Officer Professional Military Education.

    Privates have been complaining about the brass doing nothing since the Roman legion...it's part of military life. Gripe about the food and about being on the bottom of the rank & file.
     
  5. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    And what do you consider value? What would you do without your workers? 12.00 an hour is not going to kill off any business.
     
  6. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Be real. Would you want a 7 year old cooking your food. I wouldn't.
     
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    Flipping burgers "challenging"? Compared to running a multi-billion international corporation with millions of employees and tons of responsibilities that go along with that position. There is no comparison in the real world. Anyone can flip burgers, it's a low skill job requiring virtually no education.
     
  8. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    I don't care if you have the intellect of a rock if you work hard you should be able to pay your bills without assistance.
     
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    A guy flipping a burger requires more skill and effort than a CEO leading the organization?

    That goes everything that is German, Munchen.
     
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    Comprehension , the intellect of a 7 year old . And they already are making the burgers.
     
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    Every single individual I went to college with is doing much better than McDonalds as far as employment is concerned. There isn't a single exception. Now, admittedly, I went to business school, so I wasn't exactly associating with the underwater basket weaving crowd. So you do have a point in that when going to school, a person does need to make sure he or she is actually in a major they can make use of.

    I worked my way through school while doing internships that I wasn't even paid for, because that is how you get ahead. There is no reason why these people can't do the same. Or do you think otherwise? What is their excuse? I had to make ends meet etc.

    Another option is to join the military. You can get valuable training and also money for school. I knew a young guy who worked in a donut shop (basically McDonalds level), but decided to join the Navy to get ahead. He will receive training in the Navy and they will pay for him to attend a university. Now he had to enlist for six years to get the deal he got, but that is the sort of price you need to be willing to pay.

    If you aren't willing to work yourself half to death and get very little sleep with almost no free time to pay your way through school, or join the military or do whatever it takes, then you shouldn't be surprised that nobody wants to pay you more than minimum wage. You simply aren't worth more than minimum wage, because you clearly don't have what it takes.
     
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    its not just physical work...i'm also sure most burger flippers are more intelligent than the management. just look at many "out of touch decissions"...
     
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    that is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) too. We germans work less than anyone else, have most freetime of all industrial nations but our economy is the strongest and most stable. you just look on quantity. Its the level of quality of work which is important. So many idiots sit hours at work to impress their boss but achieve not much...no great results and such behavior is encouraged in your country. I would never work half to death. I work to live, but i don't live to work. Im a human being and not a working drone.
     
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    Thats because the type of work that Officers and other management titles do is different than what the lower level workers do. Sure things can and are delegated all day long but its not exactly easy work by any means.

    A few years ago one of my old privates was complaining about how NCOs don't do anything but yell at them and make them do everything. So I told him that him and I would switch positions tomorrow. After dragging him to the staff meetings and doing the paperwork preparing drills for the next day and getting home late he decided that changing out tracks on the tank and getting yelled at by me was actually much easier than being me. He didn't complain anymore lol.

    I'd love to grab the fry cook and put him as the CEO of the entire corporation for a couple days so he can see how "easy" it is to run a business.
     
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    Value is not an absolute value. Value will be based on what product or service I receive for the cost associated. Of course you know that. $12 per hour won't hurt any business says the person that doesn't own the business. How could either you or I know that without knowing the details of this business?
     
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    Here's a fun exercise: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

    I ran the current minimum wage in 1980 dollars and found that it's equal to $20.55 today :lol:

    The minimum wage was 5.90 in 1980. That's $16.72 in current dollars. I think these workers have a good case.
     
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    we're not asking for the burger flipper to make the same as the CEO, you short sighted pedestrian ! we're asking for the burger flipper to make just enough so they don't need to rely on government assistance and be above the poverty level.
     
  18. Nightmare515

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    Yeah and our government makes plenty of "out of touch decisions" as well. Be right back, I'm going to head to Burger King and grab the drve thru guy and make him the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing President.

    That logic makes perfect sense.
     
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    right wingers will not address this point as they hate poor people and think they are better than them.
    this isn't about capitalism with most on the far right - it's about a false sense of entitlement - ironic given they were able to move up due to actually having a livable wage in the 70's and 80's
     
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    Wow.. I wonder what the minimum wage for drones would be..... compared to 1980 dollars :)

    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/12/06/amid-drone-talk-amazon-has-real-robots/
    http://technologyadvice.com/kiva-systems-changing-future-warehouse-work/

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    More and more jobs are being replaced by machinery. It wouldn't be too hard to replace the McDonald cashier especially if they cost too much..

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    I also wonder what the minimum wage in 1980 dollars for a McDonalds kiosk would be... $7.73, $15.00, or $20.55/hr???
     
  21. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why do you right wingtards keep comparing the burger flipper to the CEO ? we're not asking for equal pay for both - we're asking for the burger flipper to have a livable, above poverty wage. you're bringing up something no one is asking for or talking about.

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    and there are only so many police officers out there to protect people like you who think profit is more important than their fellow man - those out of work burger flippers replaced by machines will be forced to do something to survive - and if that means breaking into your home, stealing your food, and money and property who will you blame then ? the machines that you advocated to replace them i suppose.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    If no one was talking about it then I wouldn't have responded to it.

    That guy flat out claimed that most burger flippers are smarter than CEO's.

    Go take a look, thats what he said.
     
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    Thread title Mcdonald mini um wage. Mc Donalds could afford to pay 12.00 per hour.
     
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    Well i was responding to another poster who claimed that burger flipping was more challenging than being a CEO...

    ahh typical lefty name calling noted...
     
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    So we need to pay them a ridiculous wage or else they will attack us ? Wow ....
     
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