George Zimmerman's Girlfriend Wants to Drop Charges, 'Be With Him'

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  1. conhog

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    what does that have to do with anything I said?
     
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    Its done everyday, don't know where you have been.
     
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    What else are they going to say. Do you really think they would tell the truth?
     
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    Where is the blog of his arrest for possession of stolen jewelry.

    I don't need to, you have to prove it wasn't his.
     
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    okay, I should rephrase. The police can ask anything they want, you're under no obligation to answer.

    I had a cop stop me for speeding one time, I had some bags of stuff in the back seat, in plain sight. He asked me where I got them, I told him none of his business and irrelevant to my speeding. He persisted, I told hi to get a warrant if he wanted to know. He wrote me the ticket I was going to get anyway and I went about my business.
     
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    No more than folks make the claim that Zimmerman was an upstanding citizen. He wasn't doing anything wrong other than WWB.
     
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    Would George tell the truth? He's never been accountable in his whole life.
     
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    Thats the racist conservative line. Please show me where someone black committed a crime and black folks come out and defend it.
     
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    In order to get that conviction you MUST prove that Zimmerman lied about being attacked. Even if he wasn't actually in danger , if he mistakenly believed he was, the jury can find him not guilty.

    The onus was 100% on the defense, and on this board is on YOU, to prove that he wasn't in danger, and never was. Can you prove that? In other words, you must prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Trayvon didn't attack him...

    So far you haven't even came close.
     
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    See that is what you don't understand or actually you probably do understand and choose to look the other way, but the bottomline is it is different when you as a white man gets pulled over in jerkwater, arkansas as compared to when I get pulled over.
     
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    First of all, I never said WHERE this happened

    Second of all

    Why do you CONTINUOUSLY pretend like there isn't an actual valid reason for the way many people, including cops, react towards blacks? Or need I remind the class once again that blacks are SIX times more likely to commit a crime than whites?
     
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    Your right that rule only applies to whites, see black folks are guilty until proven innocent. Now Trayvon flees from Zimmerman, Zimmerman gets out of his vehicle with a loaded weapon in pursuit of Trayvon. Now we don't have one witness that can say beyond a reasonable doubt what happened from there. All we have is Zimmerman's account of what happened because the other person involved is dead. Now with that said if I am on the jury Zimmerman is guilty for the simple fact of this. HAD THIS COWARD NOT GOT OUT OF HIS VEHICLE WITH A LOADED WEAPON CHASING AN UNARMED TEENAGER WHO WAS DOING NOTHING WRONG, THAT TEENAGER WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY.

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    Hmmmm, why were the police acting like that 60yrs ago? The police and sheriff depts were the number one tool for the Klan in the South, why were they acting like that 60, 50, 40, 30, 20 yrs ago?
     
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    SInce you are doing your best to turn George into a cartoon character I don't expect you to stick to the truth or reality.
     
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    And this is where your anger has finally gotten the better of you and you fail to hide the fact that you couldn't care less what happened to Trayvon except to use it as another excuse to whine about the "mistreatment" of blacks.

    You do a disservice to your entire race when you continually make EVERYTHING about race and CONTINUALLY ignore the things your own race has done wrong to make others see themselves the way we do
     
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    Ah the mistreatment of Trayvon. Now what do you tell your teenage sons to do if a strange black man starts chasing them in the night with a loaded gun?

    The disservice that is done is when the racist conservative hide from facts. You made the weak ass claim that black folks have given police a reason to find us suspicious. So I ask what is the reason black folks have been suspicious for over 400yrs? This just didn't start a year ago, two yrs ago. This has been going on since our sojourn in America.

    Your damn right I am angry.
     
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    There is nothing non equator about it The cites were giving opinion. The opinion is that they believed TM was the culprit because he had items that fit the general description of the jewelry. This type of jewelry is massed produced. You will see dozens like this in any jewelry shop. If said jewelry matched the exact description, there would have been identifying marks on that jewelry. However, what is not known in both police reports were any identifying markers that matched the items found. When TM was asked, he said he was holding it for a friend. That name will not be in any police report unless it was proven that either that friend or TM took the property. Otherwise, you are exposing a name in a public records and that is a violation of privacy laws. And the only reason why TM has his name in the school police report is because said items were given up by him and that is all.

    Now, was it coincidence? yes, Was it suspicious? Probably? But that does not prove that TM took the property or was involved in the burglary. and this is simply character assassination on a dead teenage boy who was doing nothing more than going home and being followed by a wannabe cop.
     
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    Was not screwed up process. because there was nothing there to indicate that TM was the theif or knew who the thief was. The tool that you are speaking of is a screwdriver. You have a screwdriver in your garage, don't you? Does that mean you are a burglar? Of course not in the real world, but in your warped logic and reasoning, that is all what a screwdriver is used for LOL.

    The school police report listed those items as "found items." this means that these items were not TM's and the proper owner may likely pick them up. Of course, they would have to describe said items and identify them before they were allowed to take possession. But there was simply not enough evidence to charge TM since he gave them up and said it belonged to a friend, according to the police report.,

    You are so desperate to attempt to prove TM is guilty that TM must fight, even after death, that he is innocent. I thought we had a process of "innocent until proven guilty" but it appears that the Zimmie lovers don't want that for all, only the Great Hype Hope.

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    Was not screwed up process. because there was nothing there to indicate that TM was the theif or knew who the thief was. The tool that you are speaking of is a screwdriver. You have a screwdriver in your garage, don't you? Does that mean you are a burglar? Of course not in the real world, but in your warped logic and reasoning, that is all what a screwdriver is used for LOL.

    The school police report listed those items as "found items." this means that these items were not TM's and the proper owner may likely pick them up. Of course, they would have to describe said items and identify them before they were allowed to take possession. But there was simply not enough evidence to charge TM since he gave them up and said it belonged to a friend, according to the police report.,

    You are so desperate to attempt to prove TM is guilty that TM must fight, even after death, that he is innocent. I thought we had a process of "innocent until proven guilty" but it appears that the Zimmie lovers don't want that for all, only the Great Hype Hope.
     
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    There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty in the court of public opinion. That is strictly a legal term.
     
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    Tell your kids to not attack people like Trayvon did. He acted very stupid and paid the price. The not guilty verdict proves what a farce this case against Zimmerman was.

    You are still stuck in the 60's. Things have improved greatly for blacks in the past few decades. The sooner race baiters like Al Sharpton are gone the sooner things can progress further. It is time that blacks looked to Nelson Mandela and put the past behind them.
     
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    You mean the same court of public opinion that ignores facts?
     
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    That is always the case with OPINION. That's why we don't allow OPINIONS in criminal trials.
     
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    That is not a valid reason to treat a race that way, it is an excuse. It is the same excuse that Okinawan have about U.S. sailors since U.S. sailors are more likely to commit rape than a native will. Or perhaps every white male individual who owns a business or is a manager that controls money should be first viewed as a potential financial theif waiting for actual facts to prove their guilt or incense. It is the same excuse that when someone see a young, black male in a BMW 550i that their first thought is the person stole the car or is on drugs or is a pimp than waiting for actual facts to present themselves to determine guilt or innocence.
     
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    One can formulate an opinion and still not state guilt or innocence on that person. People can say that they believe that TM was the person or knew the person who stole the jewelry, but they cannot make that opinion as fact, even in the court of public opinion.
     
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    Were also enamored with the US justice system when OJ Simpson was found not guilty? Was the case against him also a farce?
     
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    and how exactly would you propose that anyone but the group involved can change the way they are perceived?

    Let's forget about black people for a moment. It isn't just black people. who are judged by what they do as a group, that's what stereotypes are, and stereotypes are rooted in reality.

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    I agree with that.
     

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