‘Duck Dynasty’ patriarch makes ‘vile’ statements to describe LGBT people

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  1. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Seems to me he's being fired for his religious beliefs, isn't that discrimination based on federal law?
     
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    Why would you declare that a man with morals and a conscience is vile and bigoted? Furthermore, with the expansion of immorality and perversity, it is more necessary now than ever to employ morals and conscience on national TV.
     
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    I agree with you. What the guy from Duck Dynasty said was not hateful. There's a big difference between hating the sin and hating the sinner. A true Christian speaks the truth about what's right and what's wrong, without criticizing the sinner. People are way too politically correct.
     
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    Agreed. And you don't have to be a Christian to have a conscience and to recognize when something is very wrong.
     
  5. Wolverine

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    Comparing my brother to people who partake in bestiality?

    Vile and bigoted.

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    In what ways is homosexuality related to bestiality?
     
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    No...

    By that standard then a company 'could never fire you for anything' if you just claimed it is a 'religion' (ex. a person could show up to work nude, and then just assert that nudism is some 'religious belief' of theirs, etc)

    1st Amendment protection doesn't apply to private businesses. It just means the govt can't arrest you or censor you for saying something 'offensive'.

    That said I still think the obsession with his comment is silly
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    I believe you are wrong. The problem is most employers will make up another reason for firing you or state none at all, but that is not the case here. A&E clearly stated that Phil Robertson's religious views do not reflect theirs and that is discrimination.
     
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    So gay people don't have morals?
     
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    I didn't ask about the legal aspects.

    Didn't ask about the religious.

    I have no religious beliefs.

    Just because two things are immoral does not make them equivalent. Adultery is not equivalent to murder is it.
     
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    I read what he said and no where did I read him comparing people who engage in homosexuality with people who engage in bestiality. Can you cite that part.
     
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    So if my 'religion' is Rastafarianism, then that means I'm exempt if I fail a drug test for weed (while others are not - simply because I smoked weed for a 'religious' reason, as arbitrarily definded)?

    Views on homosexuality, bestiality, etc are not exclusively 'religious'. If he had been fired, or told he could not be hired just because he is a Christian, or believed in god, that would be a different story
     
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    No it is not. He cannot be fired for it either...Ask a lawyer.
     
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    Yes it is - Stalin was an atheist but disliked homosexuality. So by your standard an atheist could be fired for saying they dislike homosexuality (since it's a 'secular reason') but a Christian, Muslim, etc could not be fired for saying the same thing (since it's a 'religious reason'). That's absurd, and no different than political correctness.
     
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    Looking at the EEOC description of Religious Discrimination and Segregation Title VII prevents Phil from being segregated to a non-customer contact position. And now knowing that A&E was present during the interview could their conduct be considered harassment? A&E stated publicly that, ""We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson's comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty,"

    Fits the definition of Religious Discrimination by the EEOC.

    Having said that he must be an employee of A&E and not an independent contractor.

    I don't think they would sue even if they could...they'll just go on with another network.
     
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    Are you willfully misrepresenting what he said? He was asked what he considered sinful. He started with homosexuality. He then listed other things he considered sins, including bestiality and adultery. That's it.

    If you don't now DESIST making this claim, you will be labeled a liar.
     
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    Why is it we never heard from GLAAD when all manner of libs were and to this day throwing around the term *********? Isn't that a vile remark about a homosexuality act?
     
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    A&E needs Duck Dynasty, the Robertsons don't need A&E.
     
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    One can't really love ones Brother without loving the truth more, and then holding ones Brother to the truth.
     
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    Now this from drug addicted sex fiend Charlie Sheen ...

    hey Mallard brained
    Phil Robertso!
    you have offended and hurt so many dear friends of mine,
    who DO NOT have the voice or the outreach that I do.
    well news flash
    shower-dodger,
    I will speak loudly and clearly for ALL of them.
    so,
    just when your desperately sub evolved ass thought the pressure was off,
    you are now in the crosshairs of a MaSheen style media
    beat down.
    (I'll try to keep the big words to a minimum as not to confuse you)

    your statements were and are
    abhorrently and
    mendaciously unforgivable.

    the idea that you have a job
    outside of dirt-clod stacking
    is a miracle.

    the only 'Dynasty' you are attached to might be the
    re-runs of that dated show.

    the only thing you should ever be in charge of building is a hole in the ground the exact size of your head.
    perhaps your beard would fit as well if you plucked out the
    army of scabies and
    bull weevils sequestered deep in it's sarcophagus of dander and weasel pelts.

    shame on you.
    you're the only surviving
    brain donor I've ever known.

    when the gators and Egrets
    kick you out of their
    hovel,
    you need to make serious amends to those you have
    radically offended.

    on the eight day
    when I was whittling my cosmic banjo,
    I'm pretty sure YOU were the scattered dross I then used to light a fire and
    locate the nearest
    Andy Gump.

    repulsed by you;
    c sheen

    hash tag;
    Duck; that was me.


    Now that's an endorsement I would follow....LMFAO!!!!
     
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    It might be wise of the drug addict not to stray south of the Mason-Dixon line any more. Just saying.
     
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    Yep, just sayin'
     
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    He just said that his belief is that Gays are immoral based upon his Bible faith \:

    Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


    All the left and politically correct feminized people who hold different opinion and are pro Gay marriage are allowed to teach the kids their point of view, but they get mad if diverse opinions are permitted.
     
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    I was completely unaware that Paul was God.

    Where are the verses where Jesus condemns homosexuality?
     
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    The word used in the Bible to describe homosexuality is 'fornication'.
     
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