Is the belief that homosexuality is sinful homophobic ?

You don't have to be religious or indoctrinated to know that homosexuality is very wrong. It's a simple matter of conscience.

 

Political privilege?

How so?

Gays should have the same civil rights that Hetrosexuals have.

 

When did marriage become a civil right?


P.S. I have no problem with gay marriage outside of the Church.

 

The right to marry and the right to have the same benefits under law that heterosexual couples have is a civil right.

By your lights.. sitting at a lunch counter or riding a bus, or voting would not be a civil right.

((((shaking head)))

 

The most common legal application of the term civil rights involves the rights guaranteed to U.S. citizens and residents by legislation and by the Constitution. Civil rights protected by the Constitution include Freedom of Speech and freedom from certain types of discrimination.

Not all types of discrimination are unlawful, and most of an individual's personal choices are protected by the freedoms to choose personal associates; to express himself or herself; and to preserve personal privacy. Civil rights legislation comes into play when the practice of personal preferences and prejudices of an individual, a business entity, or a government interferes with the protected rights of others. The various civil rights laws have made it illegal to discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, handicap, or national origin. Discrimination that interferes with voting rights and equality of opportunity in education, employment, and housing is unlawful.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Civil+Rights

Marriage is a privilege not a right it can be denied and or restricted by law. It may be wrong to have it be illegal (which it is) but it is not a right.

 

Marriage has always been a right.. Domestic law 101. Blacks and whites have rights to marry each other.

 

Municipal law is the national, domestic, or internal law of a sovereign state defined in opposition to international law. Municipal law includes not only law at the national level, but law at the state, provincial, territorial, regional or local levels. While, as far as the law of the state is concerned, these may be distinct categories of law, international law is largely uninterested in this distinction and treats them all as one. Similarly, international law makes no distinction between the ordinary law of the state and its constitutional law.


Domestic law does not make something a right. Why would it, rights are defined in the constitution? Which marriage is not mentioned at all. Which would make it a state issue and thus up to their constitutions.

 

I just heard Billy Graham's boy say that homosexuality is sinful, and we know for sure HE is not homophobic, right?

 

What a laughable statement. Islam has never been tolerant. From their beloved prophet Mohammad to their Jihadi heroes, like Osama bin Laden, they have always been a militant and unforgiving people. Day 1 was a Jihad.

 

You're misinterpreting what he said.

 

...........it is

 

What a laughable display of intolerance.

 

There is a big difference between not liking gays and fearing them...

 

History suggests otherwise. What I stated is absolutely true and based on fact.

 

The very worst things done in the names of Mohammad and Jesus are only different in that they are consistant with Mohammad's example and inconsistant with Jesus' example.

 

Why ask me about political privilege, when in your very next post you referred to the "benefits" gays should be receiving. Instead, ask yourself why they deserve these privileges, for the mere reason of performing a sexual act most think they shouldn't be performing.

 

I am not gay however I think gays have "relationships" that go beyond a sex act.

 

The same could be said for incest and polygamy. Are you here to promote them also?

 

You don't know the difference, do you?

 

That's a different topic altogether.

 

It doesn't have to be, but sometimes is.

Not everyone who dislikes homosexuality is a homosexual. This is blatantly obvious. There might be a correlation, but that says nothing about any individual in particular.

 

Not completely. Whether you think their reasoning is right or wrong, I know people who don't agree with homosexuality, they feel it is a sin, but don't wish to intrude on what two consenting adults do. That's not to say everyone is like that, but I know some people personally that are like that.

So I wouldn't say thinking it is a sin makes someone homophobic, I think if it leads to other actions would lead down that path.

 

A definition of homophobia that better fits its practictioners is the belief that homosexual sin is worse than heterosexual sin.

It is not.

See the thread entitled "Who is Destroying Marriage" in this section of PF.

 

jewish law

 

The same could be said for traditional marriage and homosexuality; different topics altogether.