Christian parents get up to 14 years in prison for letting their children die !

I agree with most of your comment. .. Especially that there is no reason for religious institutions not to be taxed (they can get tax benefits for their REAL, verifiable charities).

However, I couldn't agree and still be honest without stating that, I do believe in a higher power, "God" for a lack of a better word, but I do not believe in man made religions. Although I respect that some people benefit from belonging to a religious organization (mostly socially!), i believe that religion in general does more harm than good and that the man made dogmas attached to all religions do exactly the opposite of what "GOD" represents to me. . .Organized religions are by definition, divisive, judgemental, and bogged down in "fairy tails" tthat too often use fear and intolerance rather than promote unity, acceptance and love.

 

The context is mothers and their unborn and born children.

Nice try in trying to change the context of the subject though.

 

But they aren't worth giving food stamps are they?

 

I definitely wouldn't wait for the firemen; the fire could definitely get to you prior to the arrival of the firefighters. Get out as soon as you can. I say jump and save yourself and your 3 year old child.

 

The context of the discussion are mothers and their unborn and born children.

Now you are changing the context to people taking care of other people's children.

Apples and oranges.

 

I feel bad for the kids, they lost the parent lottery.

 

When there is no brain activity, wetherr it is prior brain development, or after the brain dies, human life is not present, although, in both cases, the cluster of cells (one tiny, the other including many villions of cells) is still "living," but is not yet, or no longer representing HUMAN life.

 

Except for the "christian Scientist" church. . .in principle. .. But as the personal experience I describe in this thread, the hierarchy of the church (in my case, a bishop of the church) knows better, and when confronted with the full impact of their dogmatic teachin on real life and death issues, they do take the road of responsivility (mayve vecause they are afraid of the consequences of a law suit?) and "allow" their followers to get the help hey need.

 

I guess you still have a reading comprehension problem.

I never mentioned the word "human." You did.

The living zygote is destined to become a human being if not killed by someone like you.

 

They should serve prison time. Adhering to an ancient religion that worships virgin births and resurrections is stupidity and allowing someone to die because of that is criminal.

 

Quite possibly because what they was indefensible. It was NOT a Biblically sound choice (the Bible clearly states that there are plants and herbs who's purpose is for healing, making the medical profession a Biblically "approved" approach to healing). What these people did was purely based around their own self-righteousness, not around their Biblically based faith. When faced with this kind of thing, the Biblical response is to "pray in faith all the way to the doctor's office".

 

Hope they rot in jail.

 

I find religion untenable, but blaming religion for stupid people is missing the point. You can take any ethos to extremes and you'll find people on the crazytime edge willing to justify any action because they're unbalanced, pathological, hedonistic, sociopathic or any other number of psychological aberrations. It's always the people, some ethos' are born better and it's easier for people to understand or relate to horrific actions if we can assign 'value x' to it, but the underlying truth is that ideas don't go do things, don't move things, don't change things. People do that, and the reasons for them doing so are quite often far more illuminating than the ideas themselves.

 

Non sequiter

Non sequiter

 

Jehovah Witnesses are considered mainstream Christians and they'll let their children die rather than allowing them to have a blood transfusion which would save their lives........

These religious nuts that don't believe in doctors and the wonders of medical science, yet if they can't see, they go to the eye doc and get glasses, if they can't hear, they go to an ear doc and get hearing aids, if they have bad teeth, they to to a dentist, who has the title of doctor and get dentures or dental care...... but they'll let their child die from diarrhea and breathing problems or lack of blood from an accident or whatever reason for a blood transfusion........ brainwashed, hypocritical, gullible morons who should be neutered........

 

I support the parents. Theirs would not have been the decision I made, but they should be free to make that decision.

 

I explained twice before that "LIFE" doesn't necessarily mean HUMAN LIFE, and that a Zygote is merely the POTENTIAL for human life, but is NOT YET A HUMAN.

And anywhere from 33 to 75% of zygotes NEVER make it to the fetus stage, and much less to the child stage. . .and that is NOT because of abortions, but because of spontaneous miscarriages.

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Get your information right. . .either you are uninformed, or you purposely avoid telling the truth.

 

So, you agree that a zygote is living and destined to become a human being?

 

So you support parents who will let their child die while they pray over their sick child who can barely breathe, diarrhea pouring out of him and he hadn't eaten in about a week?

Tell me, do you support parents who abuse their kids, lock them up in a room for days, weeks at a time, barely feeding them?

 

Really? Christians consider Jehovah's witnesses mainstream? Maybe in America...however I agree with the main point, they're all the same crazy

 

I support religious freedom. The kid died from an illness, not torture.

 

I always have, they're all over, but m/b others don't. I've known quite a few JW's and I like them, they're good people - but that crazy religion of theirs .....

I don't like organized religions. They're just all about $ and crazy beliefs that I would never accept.

 

I support religious freedom also, but NOT when the adults are allowed to let a defenseless CHILD DIE that medical care could easily save!

Diarrhea? Should a child die from diarrhea when a doc could easily stop it w/the right meds/treatment and hospitalize the child so it has interveinious feedings to put natural fluids back into the child's body and back to health? Dehydration alone will kill anyone and that is torture! A person will die faster w/o water than w/o food.

The child had trouble breathing - you think it's not torture for a child trying to BREATHE? Not to mention the child had not had any food for a week, so it was slowly starving to death..... that's not torture?

If an atheist couple or a religious couple w/o these 'prayer will save my sick, dying child' beliefs did this to their kids, they'd be arrested.....

 

Religious freedom shouldn't grant people exceptions to the law just because they are "religious" - ex. if a person denied their child care for a "secular reason", they'd go to prison - the same should be true regardless of the reason, whether it's religious, secular, or whatnot

 

Yea that's rich, he died from an illness as opposed to the gross negligence of the parents. and if this is about religious freedom...So if a religion advocates child sacrifice to appease their sky god that would be ok with you?