Great News: German Home-Schooling Family Allowed to Stay in US After Asylum Denied

It is funny that you call me a "tyrant". I´m young and sucessfull and i´m proud for what i can do and for my nation. and we would not be what we are without our superior educational system. And i want it to stay the way it is. Leading and ruling. Germany totally dominates the entire EU for a reason. We live in a competive world. And we can´t afford nonsense.

 

Pay attention, we're talking about an individual right to educate your children as you see fit. Unless of course you can point to a post where I said anything about God existing.

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You failed to answer the question. Did you watch the Ted talk? Are you a victim of the God complex?

 

S-E-N-S-E O-F H-U-M-O-R ?.............apparently not.

And conservative Christian home schooled kids are all weirdos who will be stuffed in garbage cans while given atomic wedgies when they're released back into the wild when they grow up

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Opinion. No "evidentiary proof" needed.

 

What Ted talk?

 

Good news indeed!

Would like to see how "the wise latina, who is more qualified than a white male to make a rational descision" voted.

Probably the same as the honorable Kagan.

 

No.

The Rightie Christians in the USA limit their religious demands for "religious freedom" to simply jailing for long periods the people who do things their "God" doesn't approve of, like anal sex.

 

Hey Fiddler, did you notice that they polled residents (no pun intended) of states that passed gay marriage bans, and in the last 10 years, the results hve flipped. 10 years ago 58% dissapproved, and now, 57% approves.

The Christian right peaked in 2006, and now they're on the way out. The GOP doesn't need the evangelical south to win elections, because they'll vote Republican no matter what. It'a all happening right now!

 

over and over i see the statists believing that it is society that knows what is in the best interest of the individual, whether that individual is a child or an adult. they would have us cede both our liberty and our responsibility in service to the state which purports itself to serve the collective, but serves only its own continuation.

unlike the government worshiping statists, i see the indoctrination that is a part of every state sponsored form of education. no matter where, no matter when. this is simply a part of the way governments do business. that you choose to ignore it isn't anything new, big government types have been blindly walking into that trap for ages.

i see children as the responsibility of their parents, not as pieces of meat to be folded into the collective. each is a unique individual and is an important part of the continuation of the family unit. while you place your faith in the science that has brought us everything from nuclear weapons to eugenic nightmares, any reasonably intelligent person knows that education is far more than just the nuts and bolts of science. along with the responsibility of parenthood is the opportunity to pass along the morality and heritage of that cornerstone of society, the family. no amount of statist indoctrination can make up for the loss of that.

you might understand this link between parents and their children if you weren't so dead set on following the party line and embracing the hive mentality of the collective. of course children are not the property of their parents, but parent and child belong to each other. that you would allow the state to interfere in that shows that it is you who believe children to be property, property of the state.

 

No, the issue at hand is that home schooling in general is not allowed...

Had nothing to with their religious beliefs...

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No, the issue at hand is that home schooling in general is not allowed...

Had nothing to with their religious beliefs...

 

Plain and simple.
What exactly do you know about the German school / education system??
My guess would be - close to nothing.
I find it simply amusing that you feel qualified to comment on something that you don't know anything about based on some superficial "governments are bad" way of thinking and that you seriously think you can categorize me as "blindly walking into traps". That's simply ridiculous.
I'm not very familiar with the American high school system, I know that international studies classify it as mediocre, hence my common sense tells to refrain from making comments on something I don't know too much about.
Your posts only reveal your ignorance.
This time I'll really leave it at that. I'm not interested in such laughable debate.

 

I simply don't want that our sucessfull nation becomes a crime nightmare filled with religious crazed people like yours that runs on a gigantic deficit.

 

And what "crime" have they committed, exactly? Who is the victim of this alleged crime? Your sense of German nationalism?

You should, he's a hero.

 

Talk about maladjusted and stupid. Are you sure you weren't homeschooled?

 

so you feel that justifies legislation that borders on mind control and forcing parents to place their children in the hands of the "benevolent" state? if you are a product of that system, i pity anyone there who has the audacity to think freely. your every post is filled with caricatures and stereotypes that might as well come straight out of comic books and you practically drool over the supremacy of the state.

 

No, i believe in my own supremacy. The state is just the thing that guarantees me the rescources to be sucessful.

 

Read all the way to the bottom of the post you quoted there's a link that looks exactly like this one:

http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_harford

Which explains exactly why limited choice in education is a bad idea.

And by the way, I didn't call you a tyrant. I asked if you were a tyrant because your policy is tyrannical. If your educational views are so good, wouldn't the majority of people naturally choose them for themselves? Why do you need the force of government to impose them?

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So it it a God complex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex

 

That does not show religious persecution. It is not becasue of their religious beliefs that they were willfully violating the law of the land, but the fact that such violations and refulsal to alternatives presicribe that the family does not want to follow is the primary reason for their predictiament.

The family could have emigrated legally here using the proper immigrant visa category. But they chose not to.

 

We are a democracy, our laws are made from a democratic government. That means the majority of germans votes for my favorite way of education or we wouldn´t have it.

 

so it's all about you and the people that think like you? what about those who feel they and their children are best served by such things as home schooling? are they somehow inferior and need to be forced by the state to fit into the proper mold?

 

yes, thats how a nation works. Same reason why pedophiles are banned in germany as well and heroin use.

 

no, this is how an authoritarian regime works. regardless of whether the tyranny is the result of the actions of an elite few or popular opinion, it is still the use of force to unduly intrude in the lives of citizens.

time after time you have referred to the advocates of home schooling in the most derogatory of terms. you have labeled them ignorant, religious fanatics and now you compare them to pedophiles and junkies. are you really so blinded by your own fanaticism that you don't see some rather disturbing parallels between your own rhetoric and the propaganda distributed by germany's fascist regime of less than a century ago. you are following in goebbels' own footsteps, ridiculing those with whom you disagree as inferior and subhuman and advocating legislation based on these caricatures and ignorant stereotypes. instead of demanding they be rounded up and imprisoned, you are merely advocating that their children be removed from them and that they be forced into the mold that most pleases the masses. your justification is the same as was used by that historic regime, current science and the success of the nation.

 

We give out refugee visas like candy to undesirable like Somalis......who come here get on welfare and commit crimes after they have been resettled into White communities. Meanwhile a nice self-suppoting White couple with no criminal record and a legitimate asylum claim gets raked over the coals by the Obummer administration.......what an Screwed up country we have become. And what exactly would have been 'the proper immigrant visa for them'?

 

Home schooling is criminal and illegal in germany. It is so, because our government made the specific laws. A governmemt that is elected from the german people each 4 years. That is democracy. A society punishs behavior is sees as unacceptable. Thats how evry society works. Same reason why your society sees death penalty as acceptable which is seen as complete madness in our nation.

So yes, i do want that my government takes care for children who are abused from their parents and i consider home schooling as abuse. Since the majority of voters see it that way in germany, it is law.

 

What is criminal about them? Is it that they want to share opinions with their children that you find unacceptable? I guess that would be criminal to those who hate a diversity of thought.

 

Will they cut my lawn and clean my yard?


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