Obama regime ramps ups threats from IRS audits to death

A few days ago Lerner was going to testify then suddenly she was not. You testify you die seems like a good theory here, it happens in organized crime cases all the time. "Chicago Mafia"

 

People who understand this made up scandal understand why she pleaded the Fifth. People also understand when the name calling gets slung around at the them, it means they are are winning the argument. By the way, did I mention you never really countered with your own argument, just name calling?

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What is her crime?

 

We'll, do you have tangible facts? I say you do not.

 

Great thinking. But why would the TEA Party people kill her if she tells the truth?? Your thinking that the TEA Party people liked being oppressed by the IRS? It seems to me that the liberal horde is the ones that like being abused by the government and locked in dependence. Maybe that is why you think that everyone would like being treated that way??

But you do believe that the TEA Party people want to keep her from telling the truth??

First you have to believe that the liar is getting death threats. I don't and if she is I would have to assume they are coming from the people most likely to be hurt and that would be the BH Obama gang..

I agree.

That is pretty funny. What be funnier is if any sane person believed that.

To assume that her lawyer working with the Republicans is crazier than thinking that the TEA party people want to keep her from talking.

A little sad to see you trying to think without Soros talking points.

Unions?? They hate the TEA Party people and like violance.

 

All I have is a direct quote from the House Ways and Means Committee Chairman, who surely would have been refuted quickly had he just made it all up. I imagine the 'tangible facts' we seek are exactly what Ms. Lerner has been threatened to not divulge.

 

If they were applying an illegal law at the time, why is it applicable in this case, if no one new it was an illegal law, and no one living today changed it? The IRS is just a victim of the circumstances. You could argue that maybe someone in the IRS should have researched the original law from "Exclusively to Primarily" and should have discovered this years ago. That's true. But, in the end, how it actually got discovered is that the Tea Party blew the cover on their own corrupt party by having so many applications, and that is how the flaw in the law was actually discovered. Their own corruption with the IRS by demanding all their applications be approved, in fact should have never been approved to begin with. LOL!

That is why I fail to see how Lois Lerner is going to be held accountable for maliciousness. Not to mention Darrell Issa's committee is headed up by a criminal. No wonder she pleaded the Fifth.

 

Any real proof of that? Yeah, didn't think so.

 

he's right, google: Colorado TEApublican Threatens To Kill Democratic Lawmaker, Daughter

 

Your hatred is clouding your ability to have a logical and reasonable conversation. If you are already accusing her of being a liar before she testifies, how can she be one before you ever hear what she has to say?

 

If Lerner dodges prosecution, that means she was not found guilty of anything. Why then if she is innocent, should she be ruined? Because the right decided in their head they lost this ridiculous scandal, but decided they needed to blame someone because they couldn't get to Obama?

 

Then why were over 200 groups Conservative, religious and the T-Party targeted and less than 9 Progressive liberal groups reviewed and finally approved, while the 200 were never approved? Not only this as a fact, why were the applicants and contributors audited multiple times and nothing found? Was it all happenstance?

 

Bring forth evidence of Tea Party violence or be silent...

 

I don't think that ever happened. If you have a link to support your contentions, whip it out

Here is a link that indicates, clearly, that far more conservative/tea party groups were approved than any other group.

http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features.nsf/Articles/D2A6C735EAFA7A9085257B7B004C0D90

On May 15 the IRS released a list of 176 advocacy organizations that were approved for tax-exempt status. This group of applications should have considerable overlap with the 298 that were the subject of the TIGTA report. But there are two differences. First, the TIGTA list covers organizations regardless of whether there was subsequent approval. The later IRS list only includes organizations receiving approval. By law, the IRS may only disclose information from organizations that have received approval.

Second, the TIGTA list does not include applications received after May 2012. The later IRS list could include organizations whose applications were received by the IRS office in Cincinnati after May 2012.

In a separate May 15 release, the IRS said the total number of advocacy cases it has handled since the selection began in May 2010 is approximately 470. This suggests that approximately 172 applications (that is, 470 minus 29 have been filed after the end of the application period examined by TIGTA.

Of the 176 organizations the IRS has approved, Tax Analysts counted 46 that had either "Tea Party," "patriots," or "9-12 project" in their name. The table released by the IRS indicated that 136 of all approved organizations were awarded 501(c)(4) status, 39 received 501(c)(3) status, and one was granted 501(c)(6) status.

 

There is absolutely no evidence that these death threats came from Democrats or the Admin. They could just as well have come from angry Right Wing fascists of the Tea Party.

 

Reports: IRS Spared Liberal Groups as Tea Party Languished, More Conservative Orgs Targeted Than First Thought​

By Guy Benson
May 15, 2013

Remember what we were told when this explosive story first broke less than a week ago? The IRS official in charge of tax exemptions for organizations said the improper methods employed within her division were executed by "low level workers" in Cincinnati who weren't motivated by "political bias," and impacted roughly 75 organizations? Wrong, wrong and wrong:

"Low Level" - Officials within the highest echelons of the agency were aware of the inappropriate targeting, including the last two commissioners -- at least one of whom appears to have misled Congress on this very question. Now Politico reports that Lerner herself sent at least one of the probing letters to an Ohio-based conservative group.

The director of the Internal Revenue Service division under fire for singling out conservative groups sent a 2012 letter under her name to one such group, POLITICO has learned. The March 2012 letter was sent to the Ohio-based American Patriots Against Government Excess (American PAGE) under the name of Lois Lerner, the director of the Exempt Organizations Division...at the time of the letter, the group was in the midst of the application process for tax-exempt nonprofit status — a process that would stretch for nearly three years and involve queries for detailed information on its social media activity, its organizational set-up, bylaws, membership and interactions with political officials. The letter threatened to close American PAGE’s case file unless additional information was received within 60 days.​

These burdensome requests were apparently designed to bury the victimized groups in paperwork. Carol reported last night that some 58 percent of these applicants were asked for unnecessary information and data, according to the Inspector General's review. Some inquiries asked for screenshots of organizations' Facebook posts and even lists of what books (!) its members were reading.

"No Political Bias" - This claim was laughable on its face from the start, in light of the agency's surreal criteria for added scrutiny and the "red flag" words and phrases that triggered investigations. Now add to the mix this scoop from USA Today:

In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked. That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months. In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows. As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with liberal-sounding names had their applications approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," the liberal groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.​

Lerner also reportedly fast-tracked an approval for a foundation operated by President Obama's half brother, taking the extraordinary step of granting it retroactive tax-free status.

"Seventy-five organizations effected" - That number almost immediately swelled to 300. Now it's closer to 500:

The IRS targeting of conservative groups is far broader than first reported, with nearly 500 organizations singled out for additional scrutiny, according to two lawmakers briefed by the agency. IRS officials claimed on Friday that roughly 300 groups received additional scrutiny. Reps. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said Tuesday that the number has actually risen to 471. Further, they said it is "unclear" whether Tea Party and other conservative groups are being targeted to this day.[/INDENT]​

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...ive-orgs-targeted-than-first-thought-n1596864

As you were saying?​

 

As I was saying what? Your claim.

It remains unproven. You were saying? You were saying? You were saying? Clearly the 200 groups you claimed were never approved is unsupported nonsense. Your article certainly does not support that claim.

 

ROTFFLMFAO!!!!!... Thanks for the laugh.

 

This proves there is no scandal!! Thanks for posting this.

 

If she is given immunity, and it turns out she did nothing wrong and is truly innocent, then she will be fine.

But remember, it was Lerner who on May 10, 2013, held a press conference in which in response to a planted question she apologized for "inappropriate actions" by the IRS regarding treatment of Tea Party applications. Lerner and her boss (Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller) have stated they held the conference to get ahead of the soon to be released Inspector General report which discovered the abuse.

The smoking gun has not been found, but its clear Lerner was in on the abuse. Give her immunity, she knows who did what.

 

This thread title is pretty ambitious, considering the article doesn't specify who made the threats...

 

That's pretty much what was proposed today and Darrell Issa turned it down. Issa could have learned everything today but he refused, leading to the only conclusion that he has no interest in the truth. Only to keep a witch hunt going for political reasons. That is why Cummings is pissed.

 

We'll, actually that information was just released by Ellijah Cummings. It turns out it was a republican in the IRS above Lerner who is actually responsible for the screw ups. Not Lerner! That's why there was an apology. Except she wasn't apologizing for herself. But today, her lawyer apparently got with the committee to see if Lerner could get immunity in return for the truth. When Issa found out who was responsible he put the breaks on the investigation which caused Lerner once again to plead the Fifth, proving he had no interest in finding out the truth. So that is how it went. I will post the video later that shows this.

I would also remind everyone, that the republican IRS chief responsible, did not target for political reasons either. There were no politics involved according to him. That is also believable, he being a republican. But when Issa found out the truth, he decided he didn't want the truth put out there. He is the reason Lerner pleaded the Fifth again, and that is why Cummings got hot. And good for him. He and the country are sick of a scandal that doesn't exist and the dodge ball game Issa is playing. The guy is disgusting.

 

Thats the speculation.....

Do you think republicans are threatening her not to testify? does that make any sense? nope....

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That post is ridicules, and you know it.

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Can we have a government who tells us the truth? is that possible?

 

You are so quick to blame a Republican for "screw ups" and declare Lerner innocent before she - or anyone who really was on the inside - has testified or commented truthfully and publicly.

The testimony from the victims and the IG make it clear that the IRS was used to target the "progressives" political opponents. Only a blind ideologue can deny it. The open issue is the legal aspect - can evidence be found that will support legal or legislative action, and that is where immunity for Lerner comes into the picture.

 

I'm not blaming the republican. The republican already came forward. And to tell you the truth, the republican did nothing wrong as well. He targeted yes. But it wasn't political. This is coming from Cummings; http://on.msnbc.com/1fISnCi http://on.msnbc.com/1g1ERhC