Campaign to save dog who bit boy raises just $400 less than donations for boy's care

its the owners fault, not the dogs'! if your child grew up , and decided to bum off of you instead of getting a job, would you decide he/she needed to be offed cuz he/she 'serves no purpose' other than to lay around the house? or should you blame the parent for enabling it?

 

anoither trash breed owner who thinks they have tamed their wild animal....

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humans have free will, dogs don't. If my kid grew up and committed crimes, he's not basing those decisions off of training or natural instinct like a dog is.

 

You would blame both, and if you ask me, you'd blame the child more because he was the one who took the actions that lead to the conclusion. The child in your example isn't a robot and neither is the dog in this real life incident. The dog may not have been able to control how he was trained and cared for, but he bit a human being, a small child who is now disfigured before his life has barely begun. It has proven that it will attack humans, violently. It needs to go. And you can blame the owner all you want, but it wasn't the owner biting that child's face off nor was the owner standing there telling the dog to do so.

 

Nice strawman! However, I will answer. IF I had any kids, they wouldn't be allowed to bum off of me. My Dad booted me out when I was 19 just so I could learn to make my own way.....and I did! It wasn't a tough transition though. He taught me to drive his car when I was 11. Then proceeded to tell me I needed to find a way to make money before I turned 16 and could drive because I'd be riding my bicycle to my first job for a long time. He said he wasn't going to buy me a car and I damn sure wasn't going to drive his. One month after my 15th birthday I bought my first car having $2000 1973 dollars in my bank account. So in answer to your post I'd euthanize both owner and dog. A dog is just a dog, one less won't matter.

 

I love it.... too many times, people equate dogs to family. too many times, people think the amount of soul an animal has is directly proportional to how cute it is.


Save the baby seal.... but Racoons are to be killed


Dogs are cute... I love having a dog.... but dogs are completely replaceable. No dog will ever get a $3k surgery when a $25 euthanasia and a $50 adoption fee are an option.

 

Meh. German Shepherds are one of the more trustworthy dogs out there. As common as they are, as big as they are, with as strong of a bite as they have, if you look at the maiming/killing incidence (from studies such as the Clifton research), it is very rare for them to do damage. Their bite characteristic tends to be a guiding nature, instead of an attacking/kill attempt.

 

I have been bitten more times by small dogs than I have either of them combined.

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If you mean "person who has experience to know of what they are speaking", then yes.

 

I've already addressed that in your typical trash breed defending.... when a chihuahua's bite can send you to the hospital, then you will have a point...

....says every pit bull owner right before pit attacks a kid.

... says every pit bull owner right AFTER pit bull attacks kid.

 

Why does it matter what I say? That seems to have very little bearing on what people do.

 

you can't just shoot it in the head. they need the brain to test for rabies.

 

Well, there would be plenty of brain left.

 

Amazing the level of ignorance being displayed about pitbulls. I guess posting dozens of videos of peaceful and amicable pitbulls will do nothing to assuage the hatred and fear some people have for them. But the old maxim is true, there are no bad breeds, only bad owners. Dogs have evolved to be servants to humans, and they will serve us exactly how the pack leader induces them to, whether it is intentional or unintentional. If you don't believe me, just watch a few episodes of the Dog Whisperer and you'll see just how bad some people can be at raising dogs in the proper way.

 

I couldn't agree more.

 

Should we require owners of viscous breed dogs to take a dog safety and handling course with a yearly license? Requiring liability insurance would be a very good start.

 

You should see a doctor after every dog bite. One can get a nasty infection if left untreated. Perhaps if one is a good parent, their kid won't be roaming on other people's property. Better to have a 'trash breed" dog than a trash breed child.

 

There is no such thing as a "vicious breed" of dog. They only become that way if they are conditioned, either intentionally or unintentionally, to be vicious. People should be held responsible for their actions regardless. Whether it is dog ownership or gun ownership. But, no, I don't think they should be forced to get a license or liability insurance.

 

The pit bull was clearly the victim of its own environment and poor upbringing. Isn't that what the liberals always say when defending the civil rights of the criminal?

 

Saying that there are real factors which lead people to end up committing crimes is not the same thing as saying they're not responsible for what they've done. Being honest about the situation and looking at the factors that drive criminals to do what they do is the first step towards trying to prevent crimes as well as saving people from ruining both their own lives and the lives of others. Economic and social factors all play into it.

You can posture and do the tough on crime routine all you want, but if nothing is done to actually stem the problem at it's roots, all that bluster is really just a way of being lazy about the whole thing.

 

In my town, I've found it most successful to attend city council meetings then stand up and make the case for banning them from the city limits. It worked quite well. They did it in stages because the spineless worms wanted to see if there would be any push back, there wasn't any so......They changed the city ordinances to read " the eleven viscous breed dogs" MUST be fixed AND the fees for a license from $95 to $395 per year as well as a zero tolerance for dog bites. If an owner of one of the recognized eleven viscous breed dogs bites anyone, animal control removes the dog and it's euthanized....period. No appeal, nothing it's a done deal with the first bite. I'm working on having an Insurance or Surety bond requirement and adding a criminal element should the dog bite anyone off the owners property at the State level. There simply isn't a single good reason on Earth for anyone to own one.

 

Dogs aren't unpredictable. Some dogs are, and people should be responsible to know when their dog is not a good fit for them.

 

Wow. What a town.
Can't say I agree with much of that.
Can you provide a link to that particular city ordnance? I would like to see the specific wording of that document, sir.
Just out of curiosity.

As for myself, it has been my experience that there are very few breeds of dog what can automatically be assumed to be 'vicious', and there are only a few stereotypes that actually hold true.
For instance;
Pitbulls, Australian Shepherds, Border Collies, etc, all tend to display 'herding' behaviors.
They will generally, without any training or conditioning, try to contain (or move to safety) other small animals or ever children.
And yes, there is an instinct to nip at the rear legs of the animal or human they are attempting to herd, but not hard enough to break skin.

German Shepherds tend to be a bit high strung, and need lots of exercise and discipline.

Dachshunds and Labradors often act as emotional barometers of the household. If their humans are upset, they are upset. If their humans are in pain, they tend to want to offer comfort. When their humans are happy, they are ecstatically happy.

But all in all, I agree with many of the earlier posters that no breed of dog can be assumed to be vicious from the start.
If they are mean-spirit biters, it's generally because some low-rent a$$hole has conditioned them to be that way.

Anyway, I ramble.
Professor Peabody, if you can provide a link or a pdf of that city ordnance, I would be greatly interested in reading the wording of it.
If you value your privacy, you can alway redact the city name from the header and footer.

 

I wish I could, I live in a small mountain community, we have low taxes and no city website. I will see if they can give me the ordinances in a .pdf though. Where I live we had quite the problem with lowlifes using the spread out population in the mountains to hide their drug labs. Invariably, they almost ALL had Pit Bulls to keep people off their property (chase runners/bicycle riders going down the street) and alert them if Law Enforcement was incoming.

Pit Bulls & Staffordshire Terriers
Doberman Pinschers
Rottweilers
German Shepherds
Chows
Great Danes
Presa Canarios
Akitas
Alaskan Malamutes
Siberian Huskies
Wolf-hybrids

This is a similar list if I remember correctly.

 

yes... how dare this 11 y.o. dare to get off his school bus and dare to travel "near the yard" of a pitbull

 

I agree with the list, our town has similar rules... the problem is the gray areas... .mutts....


we had a 7 y.o. child killed after school by 2 pittbulls last year about this time. The child was in my friends class that she taught. So it hit close to home. But I digress. The issue was, all the media said "pitt-bull attack" and all the pittbull defenders came out in force trying to point out "oh no, he's an english bulldog, not a pitt. Truth was, it was a mixed mutt that had both. So they argued since english bull dog wasn't on the list of dangerous dogs.... the dogs shouldn't be put down. Arguing a technicality. NM, the child died 5 days after the arguing already began. He never woke up


how dare that child decide to ride his bike on a public street.... thank heavens there were two unchained, unfenced pittbulls to take care of that. I mean, English bulldogs.... nm....everything is fine....