On what basis do Christians claim that their god is "good"?

so you would prefer a society that is lawless...sweet, real sweet....
Let me ask you, what are you not doing now that we are preventing you from doing? You enjoy all the of the same Rights the rest of us do. So, what's the problem? What does it matter if you chose not believe in God? A true atheist wouldn't even bother asking a question like that........
and what people would you be referring to?

 

And he had no choice in the matter.

 

You do want to avoid binary thinking, dont you? Its not a choice of "Christian or lawless".

One other thing... what on earth makes you think that someone such as I chooses to be atheist?

 

History shows different. Just look at the atheist regimes that slaughtered people by the boat load.

 

Just look at those bloodthirsty Swedes and Norwegians!

 

And learn about the true and real story of Christianity and the Bible
[video=youtube;OeE7GsNYP08]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeE7GsNYP08[/video]

 

Pagans, anti God have been for centuries practicing Satanic way of life and God brought sanity into this world giving the few good people a fighting survival chance and good man did survive now many of these anti God have evolved into atheist and they still preach their hatred towards God they'll do anything to destroy, malign, and spread false stories about God including killing everyone Christians and none Christians who refused to deny God and worship them.
God have shown His great love that He refused to exterminate Satan or Lucifer. God was very clear the final frontier is Heaven not earth and that is what God has been doing guiding the people the way to Heaven while Satan is guiding them to Hell. And because God love us so much He can not allowed and seat back do nothing to let Satan steal our souls by giving us false promises of good life with out letting us know that is return it is eternal hell. God is very clear no hidden deal no fine line be good and Heaven is ours

It is very pathetic that anti God people just can not understand this very simple concept to be good is to be with God the logic and ethics of right and wrong, good and evil.

[video=youtube;OeE7GsNYP08]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeE7GsNYP08[/video]

 

T, everyone has choices to make. You have the same choice here that everyone has. I was merely pointing out that the very foundations of our laws in this country were based on the Ten Commandments, stealing. lying, coveting, false idols...we all have choices and I believe that there are judgments awaiting us that were not intended for this world. But that is only MY belief. There is nothing that says you must have the same beliefs.

 

Yes, we do all have choices.
I can choose what shoes to wear this morning, of how I will reply to this.

I cannot choose whether or not two and two is four.

Nor can I deceive myself into thinking that it is five with the act of "choosing".

Perhaps you, or another can deceive yourself into believing that another loves you, when they do not.

That is what "choosing' to believe or not believe is all about. Self deception.

I dont choose to be an atheist; I do not believe in any god, and pretending / choosing to say I do is only self deception.

This isnt a tough concept, if you think about it at all.

As for whether then ten commandments or other biblical ideas are foundational to the US constitution, that has been much debated. Im sure there there was some influence.
To say it is the one source..as in those original intent people who go in for the constitutuion being directly inspired by god...is facile and false.

The constitution does not of course, say anything about coveting or false idols, in any case.

Those few of the "commandments" that actually relate to a well functioning society are concepts
universally honored around the world, and have nothing to do with Christianity as such.

 

The COTUS explicitly negates the several commandments.
You are free to have any other god other than the Christian one, or none at all.
You are free not to keep the sabbath holy.
You are free to keep idols. We made one our flag.
You are encouraged to covet. It is the basis of advertising. Well, that and bearing false witness.
We don't seem to take the commandments very seriously as a matter of law.
Do you know anyone that has been arrested for adultery?

 

1) What is it that you find believable about all this?

(God is the creative force behind Reality)

2) What is it about god's character as described in the Bible that you find worthy of being worshipped?

(Worshipping the Facts-of-Life [i.e.; Reality], is the ONLY way to survive and live a happy life)

3) Even if you make it into Heaven what makes you think you're going to be safe with someone like that running the place?

(Truth is the Light into Reality which seems to be very much controlled by knowable and do-able Laws)

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I think Mao followed the big ten better than the US constitution does.

 

So the all powerful God has no choice whether you go to hell or not?

 

I am not forcing my opinion on you or anyone else. My beliefs are mine and personal. I don't have to justify those beliefs to anyone, because they are mine. I will not have another's forced upon me, either. I also believe that you are free to believe in whatever you want or whomever you want, or not. That is your choice.
When it comes to beliefs, there's always choices. But not to believe in anything at all? T, will the sun come up somewhere tomorrow?

 

I dont see how anyone can choose to believe. I do, or dont; but I have to have a reason, not just an arbitrary choice.

 

I don't understand either. Maybe it's a basic need or a tool of self-developed sub-conscious force. It could be a pack mentality thing. I don't know. I don't practice any organized religion. No Baptist, Catholic, Amish, Buddhist, etc. I don't buy the dogma. For me, I have church every time I step outside and look over the countryside. But, that's me. I force that on no one. That is my belief. Whatever else you can say, I am a man of peace.

 

Reality is "all powerful."

But the truth is that our behavior will be treated the same as other life forms, and mankind will either evolve further, and survive as a species, or become as extinct as the mankind in the great flood of 40,000 years ago when all men died except the modern homo sapiens which came Out-of-Africa.

 

Fine.
But do you believe in Truth as the light into the future of the ever unfolding Reality????

Surely you are too wise to believe lies are a wise way to conform to life.

 

Your question number three gave me the first laugh I've had all day. Lot warned his wife not to turn and look back at the city being destroyed. She was warned first but she did it anyway. The thing is black pearl, she was turned into a pillar of salt by God, as it was written. But you feel free to mock God all you want.

 

Surely you are reading more into my statement than I offered. I stated no such thing.
What is a lie? It is a telling in an attempt to hide truth. Peel away the layers of lies, and the truth will find its own way to light, regardless of what it is. It will always be the truth.
Some truths are wrapped up in so many layers, they begin to look like the truth.
What is the measure of a man who doesn't challenge himself?

 

No stjames the alternative to believing in god is NOT lawlessness. Although I'm not the least bit surprised that you believe that. In fact the exact opposite is true. As this Pew study shows the more a nation's people believe that god is necessary for morality the more screwed up that nation is.



Even in the US the most religious states like Alabama and Mississippi also have the highest poverty, the highest divorce rates, the worst EVERYTHING!







Of course they also have the worst schools. So chances are they can't even read these charts.

As for your other questions they have already been asked and answered.

 

Christians tell the same lies over and over hoping their opponents will just give up. Fact is Hitler and Stalin were Catholics. Poll Pot was a Buddhist.

 

Satanism is a branch of Christianity not paganism or any other religion. Other religions don't believe in Satan. Only Christians do.

Its very hard for me to remember, sometimes when I talk to these people, that they are supposed to be adults. It feels more like I am talking to a bunch of 5th and 6th graders. Its absolutely tragic, and may be the end of us all, that the vote of the most ignorant counts equally to the vote of the best educated.

 

Looks like you answered your question before you asked it!

 

well, ya got the tense right, however, he did not practice Catholicism as an adult. While struggling with a religious concept, he started targeting Christians. That would include Lutherans and Protestants.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_Adolf_Hitler's_religion
Stalin picked a religion and announced as the State approved religion, the rest were banned over a period of time.
and Pol pot was a mess..................