Territory cannot legally change hands without the agreement of the parties. The Ukrainian annexation of Crimea, for example, was illegal. Crimeans were not consulted and the Supreme Soviet committee had no quorum. Israel cannot unilaterally annex anything- West Jerusalem included- and neither can anybody else.
The Israeli Occupation is legal. But most of the settlements are illegal, since they are civilian settlements built upon confiscated private lands.
No. The thin sliver of laughable justification gleaned from the principle of ' defensive occupation ' went straight down the Swanny when the United Nations recognised Palestinian Statehood in 2012. The occupation is illegal- and so is what is being carried out under it. Further, ALL of the squats are illegal. Your horse is dead. Quit with the flogging.
The Occupation is not illegal. If Occupations were illegal, the 4th Geneva Conventions wouldn't have made all sorts of rules & regulations that must be followed by Occupying Powers when they have control of Occupied Territory. The 4th Geneva Conventions makes it clear that Occupations are legal, but they must follow certain rules. And by the way, no nation is recognized by the United Nations until the Security Council votes to do so. Let us know when the UNSC votes to recognize The State of Palestine within The West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem. For example, UNSC Resolution 69 voted to accept Israel within the 1949 borders as a legitimate state and members of the UN. They have failed to do so for Palestine.
A nation that has, not only declared war on Israel but has, at the centerpiece of it's foreign policy the destruction of their neighbor and you say an occupation in defense of such hatred and uncivilized behavior that is totally against all precepts of the UN Charter during time of war is illegal. I suppose the occupation of Turkey by Allied Forces in WWI, Japan after WWII, the occupation of Germany Post WWII, the Occupation of Normandy by Allied Forces, the Occupation of Korea and on and on are all illegal despite how they got there while fighting forces that without any sense of legality invaded. The thin sliver of "laughable justification gleaned from the principle of ' defensive occupation ' " is quite alive and well considering the hatred and acts of violence directed at all members of Israeli society.
Your view of the ' legality ' of occupying other people's countries is nonsensical- so I won't bother putting you straight again. It's laugh material. Further, you are clearly confused between UN General Assembly recognition of Statehood and Full Member acceptance by the Security Council. Both are legal recognition of Statehood at different levels. Palestine has been recognised as a State. It's access to United Nations organisations, such as the International Court, are concomitant with that status. Neo Zionism's plans for a ' Greater Israel ' are down the cludgie. Too bad. Not. Ronstar; Incorrect; Veto all you like. Palestine is a recognised State on the pre-1967 borders.
Israel signed the UN Charter, meaning they agree with THAT method of determining what legitimate boundaries are.
Israel and Jordan fought a war. Israel won territory. That territory is legally Occupied by Israel until Jordan or some other High Contracting Party decide on the final status of this land. I am sorry that you have no concept of international law or how these things work. The UNSC has not recognized Palestine as a state. Until that happens, its not a true state. Israel remains the legal Occupying Power of the West Bank until they and the Palestinians agree on a final status of the land. This is what international law states. You can agree with it, you can ignore it, but it is what it is.
This is either a genuine failure to comprehend the basics of the text or a deliberate attempt to disseminate misinformation. The former generates sympathy, the latter is plain trolling. Either way, you're wrong.
you haven't explained why I am wrong, or how I am wrong. you just keep repeating "you are wrong". good luck with that.
still waiting for Moon to attempt to explain why I am wrong. or is he just going to keep yelling "you're wrong!!!!".
Given that you and Moon often label valid arguments that you cannot refute as 'trolling' I'd have to agree with you on this one Trout.
The US needs Israel just as much if not more than Israel needs the US as the US has no other stable base of operations in the entire region with the closest support facility being that of Naples a three day hike by boat one way and has to fret over which country is going Jihadist at any given time save Israel and none of them supply the kind of first rate intel on the crazy assed suicidal freaks that Israel does and, provides them with top notch technical improvements, computer wizardry and medical advances not to mention the weapons testing and tweaking. Not one Arab or Muslim nation can even come close so if the support door closes there will be a lot of starving Arabs prior to Israel giving up one falafel.
Were all these Arabs starving before Israel was created? I wonder how the U.S ever survived prior to Israel's indispensable support. Israels "help" to the U.S costs the U.S way too much. We wouldnt even give two shiats about Israel if there wasnt oil all around it.
Must have been if the US and the rest of the world gives them aid. Easy. Wasn't a cold war nor Jihadists at that time. I disagree as without this aid the US would have to get some pretty expensive help to ensure this region doesn't become an entire block of hostile Jihadis or Chinese and Russian lapdogs. On the other hand, it would be a real short problem if the aid did stop then Israel wouldn't have to kow tow to any party and simply eliminate their enemies rather than attempt to budget the shortfall in the economy.
It may have escaped your notice but all those wars, with the exception of the Korean armistice/stalemate, are long finished. Furthermore I don't see any belligerent and continuing occupation by the victors in any of those nations. There is no war between Palestine and Israel; just a belligerent occupying force, Israel, and legitimate resistance to the occupation.
And I haven't changed anything... I repeat the above for your education and those that have denied us independence. Jews my friend constitute a unique people in that they are simultaneously a people, a religion, and a nation. They have lived alone, as a society based on its culture, language, religion, and ties to the outside world, in their own land...Eretz Israel. When they wandered they suffered horrors and massacres in foreign lands. They knew no peace in any country when their numbers grew large and their qualities were recognized. Not one society, religion, or economic or social system gave them homage, a permanent haven, or rest. Jews were burned, drowned, cut to pieces, converted, Inquisitioned, Crusaded, Islamized, pogromed, and Auschwitzed to death. Have we learned our lesson in our 20 centuries of being strangers, of existing as a minority? It is not good to be a stranger, not good to be a minority...NEVER AGAIN!!! The Jews are a separate and distinctive people. We want to live our lives in our own separate and distinctive state. We have tasted all the promises, guarantees, and mercies of majorities. NEVER AGAIN!!! If the Arabs are unhappy about this, it is understandable. It is never easy to be a lodger in someone else's home. A lodger does not become the owner of the house. Arabs should live in their own house. They are Medieval and, another THOUSAND years will not civilize them There are 22 Arab states that were created this past century for their self-determination... Israel cannot change its Jewish character. Jews have no moral right to an Israel that is a non-Jewish state. It is a contradiction between the Jewish character of Israel and the democratic right of Arabs to aspire to all the rights that Jews have...including having an Arab minority in the land. This is exactly what is happening with the Arab birthrate the homeland Israel, was reconstituted for Jews, not Arabs. The Arabs of Israel feel they belong wholly to the Arab nation, which opposes Israel right to be independent and even exist, and yet, they live in a Jewish state with whose political goals they cannot identify and whose social and cultural values they do not share. No Arab can identify with Zionism (the international movement of the dispersed Jews back to their homeland) we have our own preference, to live in our inherited ancestral Land, and carry on with our Jewish culture, etc. No amount of cajoling, no amount of public insults, defamation and other demeaning things through the 3,000 years of history has changed us We are now in our Patrimony and we are the envy of the medieval Arab world. People here write evil statements to disparage the Jews as a last resort... If only they knew that as of today we have not yet begun to fight. It is time to choose: unswerving adherence to a Jewish state soon to be 66 years old or wait for an Arab democracy to burgeon when it is in contradiction to the Quran It is either wait for an Arab Democracy or accept one Jewish one already in existence.
25% of Israeli citizens are not jewish. There will never be a ' jewish State '- despite the ethnic cleansing policies of Knesset fascism.
Yes, I can understand how uncomfortable all those Zionist squatters must be feeling having stolen Palestinian land and living in their homes. These are the worthless scum you support so loyally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHuTUKifR5M
