Finally a crack in the wall and we see the light

I never accused you of hating Jews or hiding your real thoughts,

My arguments with you are on your (IMO) one sided views in this fued.

 

Just ask yourself why there are no official protests regarding "blocking permits"?
Or where live quickly growing palestinian population?
I'm not a teacher here..

 

That won't work. He's correct, there are. His point is though that liver-filtching Israelis are not in a majority and he reserves the right to dislike them.

Try squeezing your ' antisemitism ' out of that.

 

We dont want your livers, we want your SOULS!

MUHAHAHAHA


Try squeeze what you will from that

 

What you want is more Palestinian territory. See you, Jimmy.

 

BTW I never liked lever. So I have full right to consider the offer of liver as a personal insult.
As for their souls, I think they are already sold..

 

Well just to put it in perspective, those housing units aren't stealing anymore land. they are being built within the existing settlements.

I don't consider it murder when those killed were engaged in illegal activity or resistence activity. A number were killed attempting to enter Israel illegally. A number were killed while attempting to attack soldiers.
And then there are the "suspicious" ones, which may or may not be murder and the deaths of innocent civilians caught in the cross fire.

As for those who are aggressively responsive to even a hint of the illegality of settlements or to the "belligerent military occupation" to the extent of offering up the most ridiculous quasi-legal, and/or twisted logic excuses, I think its very simple to explain.

They begin with an ideological given which is that the jews own all the land because the torah tells them so.
After all part of the west bank IS called Judea. From this starting position everything else flows.

As to the Palestinians - what a mess they have made for themselves. Incompetence of leadership has dogged them from day 1, with a litany of mistakes, missteps, misguided actions and missed opportunities.
While resisting the occupation they have implemented tactics that the world sees as barbarous terror.

And now they float the idea that the PLO might dissolve the PA?
How convenient and expeditous considering the next election is almost 5 years overdue and Hamas who inconveniently isn't a member of the PLO is rubbing its hands.

If the palestinian leadership is foolish enought to throw away its hard fought gains, I think you can put a fork in their dream of nationhood as they will have demonstrated decisively that they are incapable of creating and maintaining one. The last thing that Israel would agree to is a failed, hostile impoverished nation on its borders. And for all of that, they only have themselves to blame.

 

One problem with that. Israel does not want the West Bank. It never did.

It originally went in seeking to crush incoming terrorist attacks.

It had no intention of annexing the West Bank because then the majority of its population would have become Muslim.

It is already unilaterally setting up its border on the West Bank.The wall was the first part. The settlements it has put up
in the last 2 years are the final pieces as to where its border will run. Its going to pull out and remain on roughly 20% of the West
Bank in a jig jagged lined to protect Israel from incoming attacks. It will require the withdrawal of Israelis from past that point.

Netanyahu is going to say to those Israelis, stay and become Palestinian or come back into Israel.

Eventually it will offer a free trade agreement with Jordan.

Palestinians will have to decide to cling to a dream of taking back all of Jordan and Israel or settling or a third state in the former area known as Palestine.

The reality is all three states will have to form a free trade zone and expedited border travel. Whether Palestinians and Jordanians want that with Israel
remains to be seen. Hatred runs deep. It may take several generations of separate existence before Jordanians and Palestinians can get along let alone with Israelis.

Water pipelines between the 3 are already being built.

Oil coming in off the coast of Gaza and between Israel and Cyprus could make the area prosper. The question though is will Palestinians see the bg picture or remain paralyzed by their own hatred and denial of reality.

 

and yet the Neo-Zionists here argue that the land belongs to the Jewish people and should always be theirs.

 

Well, that is stealing more land, isn't it. They are being built on Palestinian territory. All the existing squats are illegal, of course.

 

Does it have some racist objection to muslims ?

 

Also, blaming the current Palestinian predicament on the alleged incompetence of a succession of Palestinian leaderships' is akin to blaming the victim of a robbery for leaving his wallet in his back pocket.

 

how can you be racist against a religion?

 

Their religion commands them to fight the jews until they are in a state of subjection.

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Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.

 

social affiliation? so poor people are now a race too??

lol!!!!! your definition is crap. nice job redefining "race".

 

Well, religions are often associated with discrete ethnic groups and racism is often directed at ethnicity- under the belief that it is being directed at a specific race.

 

the largest religions today have no racial connection.

you cannot be racist against Muslims or Christians.

 

Nevertheless, isolated religious communities are subjected to racism- for the reasons I already gave.
Your point is valid though, and I'm not arguing it.

 

Its Wikipedias definition. Just be glad we dont yet have the homosexual race

 

I don't believe that for a second.

 

There is no such a thing!!!!!!!!!!! This is DEFAMATION!!!!!!!!!! This is libelous, calumniation and slander... prove it or forever remain quiet!... Jews are building new homes on government land with proper permits.

Never have I noticed a Jew crawl in one of these slimy Arab shacks... and for what reason pray tell?. As a defamer of my country, you take the cake.

 

Yes of course you believe in hearsay and scatology!

 

Yes, yes the result of a wet dream in a fallacious environment.

 

Copied word for word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)

The real world doesn't require you to believe in it. Its the real world whether you believe or not.

 

See if you can convince more of your compatriots;

That's today's Israeli press report. Topical, ain't it. Can the Israeli press be trusted ?