Finally a crack in the wall and we see the light

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    as long as they don't murder civilians, like what the terrorists Hamas do, resistance is legal.
     
  2. moon

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    Illegal occupiers are legitimate targets in any country of the world, Palestine included.
     
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    Forum etiquette prevents me from naming the Jewish extremist in question but I suspect you know who I mean. There have been others on here but the one I'm speaking about posts quite regularly. To the best of your ability, as an Israeli, can you please give me an honest answer to the following question: Are his repugnant views representative of Israeli Jewish society in general?
     
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    Ill say 15% at least and 25% at most counting all settlers, another 40% are just pessimists like me that come to about same conclusion throu "rational" logic.
     
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    He said "you people" (Goyim means non-Jewish people), and calling the rest of humanity "Jew-Haters" is a blanket statement about the rest of humanity.

    BTW, if this term was coined by "bad guys", why do Zionists stick to this term?

    Is anybody forced to use a misnomer, created by "bad guys"?

    Why not use adequate terms, like Anti-Zionism or Anti-Judaism?

    There are a lot of Anti-Christians and Anti-Islamists, and you believe that these guys are "kosher".

    You ignored my postings about Muslim-Hate and Christian-Hate, you believe that hating Muslims and Christians has noting to do with racism and that somebody making blanket statements about "them Moslems", "them Christians" or "them Goyim" (speak non-Jews) is not a racist.

    But on the other hand you cry wolf if somebody exposes the behaviour of SOME Jews.

    You call honest anti-Racists who point the finger to the Jewish racists "Jew-Haters"!

    How pathetic and how primitive!

    Everybody can read my posts and your answer and make his own opinion!
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he was referring to Jew-haters, not humanity. Most people on the Earth don't hate Jews. Only obsessive bigots do.

    again you put words in my mouth. its very dishonest and shows zero integrity.

    you have accused most Jews of being indecent. This is evil hatred.
     
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    Wow! It would appear that Gilad Atzmon has a point after all.
     
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    Because such protests aren't allowed by the Israeli occupying authorities? You had better be a teacher, because so far your story looks more like a fairy tale than a factual one.

    PS - what was your answer to the full title question, by the way?
     
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    Too thin-skinned, Moon. I'm sorry you are overly sensitive about the strident positions you take and the terminology you use while taking them, but that's your problem.
     
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    Israel can be occupying only its own territory, the Arabs are the squatters elevated by others as <owners of a dream land...>
    Your history is topsy turvy!
     
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    That sounds well enough until you get a "Jewish state" taking and occupying the lands of others who were there first. Zionism devolved into a foreign invasion with foreign backing against a relatively helpless group of people.

    And we all know it's religious driven, which of course is pure BS and nothing that the US, the UK or any European country should have been so low as to support.
     
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    The proof of the pudding is in the eating...
    Your first link does not work because the owners have withdrawn it...
    The second is a Palywood first class. So your above post is a shammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
     
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    Israel occupies the West Bank, which was called "Arab Palestine" by the Americans in the 1950s.
     
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    If you maintain that this is the Land of the Arabs when the Jews (indigenous people> are alive and well. You have proven very little about History in General and the History of the Jewish people in particular.
     
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    the indigenous Jews of Palestine are greatly outnumbered by the indigenous Arabs.
     
  16. Durandal

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    Sorry, but the Jews have no more legitimate claim to the land than the other people who have been living there, and the Zionist Jewish return has come at their expense.
     
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    I believe its almost even. About 68% of the Jews were born in Israel.
     
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    Excellent. So I take it you wholheartedly condemn Israel for the civilian murders during 'Cast Lead'.
     
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    1400 + dead. 400 of them children.
     
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    The link works fine. Oh, and Human Rights Watch, along with Amnesty, were instrumental in securing the release of Gilad Shalit. Yeah, Palywood first class..

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    How can you be indigenous if you haven't lived somewhere for 2000 years?

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    Not in 1948 they weren't. They were nearly all European immigrants.

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    Nah, 'collateral damage'...
     
  21. Ronstar

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    Israel doesn't target civilians in their military operations.

    The death-cult known as Hamas, does.
     
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    The Israelis must be lousy shots then because they've killed many thousands more civilians than Hamas.
     
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    if the death-cult Hamas didn't hide behind Palestinian women & children, many fewer Palestinian civilians would die.

    but Hamas are cowards, and hide behind Palestinian women & children in densily populated areas.
     
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    Palestinian combatants are civilians. Combatants die in combat. And when they choose to hide and fight from civilian areas, non combatant civilians end up dying as well.
     
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    That would be extremely silly as women and children in densely-populated areas are a favourite neo-Zionist military target.
    How do we know this ? Because of the casualty figures.
     

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