Mike Huckabee: Not 'homophobic' but on the 'right side of the Bible'

false...

 

The 1797 Treaty with Tripoli drafted by George Washington himself states:-
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitian nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of harmony between the two countries."

Anyone who says the United States was founded on christianity is calling George Washington a liar.

 

you're assuming that the F.F. definition of creator is the same as yours ..
cre·a·tor [kree-ey-ter] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person or thing that creates.
2.
the Creator, God.

 

No one, except some Christians, are opposed to these principles established by the US Constitution and Constitutional precedent established by the US Supreme Court.

As noted by the Supreme Court in the Reynolds v United States decision there must be a "a wall of separation between church and State" in the United States. It's Christians that constantly tried to tear down this wall of separation between church and state and not the agnostics or athiests. We are not "hostile" towards the "Christians" but instead we are hostile to the actions of those that impose religious teachings though government upon the American People. While a Christian may not see the hanging of the Ten Commandments on a court house wall as being offensive for the non-Christian it is because our laws and our justice system are not based upon the Ten Commandments. Christians or other religious followers are not offended by the replacement of the national motto of "E Pluribus Unum" that had existed since 1776 with "In God We Trust" in the 1950's but for those that don't believe in God it is offensive religious propaganda "establishing" religious beliefs under our government. The changing of the "Pledge of Allegiance" to include "one nation under God" as opposed to it being a nation "Under the Constitution" is offensive to the person that doesn't believe in "God" but instead seeks the protections of their Rights under the Constitution.

The "God of Abraham" was a murderous and vindictive "God" that, according to scripture, committed mass genecide that exceeded even what Hitler could have contemplated. That is the last "entity" that someone believing in the Declaration of Independence would place their trust in and certianly we don't want to be ruled by a book written by very superstitions men over 2000 years ago.

We don't oppose religious opinion as we fully support the Inalienable Right of Thought of the Person which includes their Right to Believe whatever they damn well please. What we do oppose is when they impose those beliefs upon us through our government institution.

Let us BUILD THE WALL OF SEPARATION between Government and Religion that many Christians like Mike Huckabee is trying to tear down.

We don't hate the Christian but we fear the actions of those that seek to destroy America by tearing down the wall of separation between church and state. Mike Huckabee is a threat to the political ideology upon which America was founded.

 

Ol' Huckaboo might be on the right side of the Bible but, as usual with extreme conservatives, he's on the wrong side of history. Shame because he seems like a real civil, nice guy.

 

Prove it isn't 'God' that they are referring to.

 

How does believing in his faith and not agreeing with gay marriage, equate to him being afraid of gays?

 

Actually, homophobia is not about fear of gays but about fear of your own sexuality.

 

We don't need your wall built. The founding fathers never had a problem intermingling their faith with their politics. This has never torn down our nation but given it a firm foundation.

 

The laws allowing slavery were based upon Christian dogma. Discrimination against women denying them sufferage and equality were based upon Christian dogma. Prohibitions against polygamy (that attacked people that believed in the Mormon religion and forced them out of the United State and into Utah before it was even a US territory) that still exist today were based upon Christian dogma. Prohibitions against interracial marriage were based upon Christian dogma. Prohibitions against same-sex marriage today are based upon Christian dogma.

Don't even attempt to try to claim that Christian dogma incorporated under the laws of the United States hasn't been bad for America.

The fact is we don't need any intermingling of religious beliefs and government and when it does occur it is always harmful to the United States.

 

Bull. You must be aware that it was Christian churches that led the fight against slavery in this country. But you conveniently ignore that truth.

 

I'm gay and don't support gay marriage. I am gay and don't support "gay rights". Go figure, there is a self-loathing neo-Nazi homophobic Uncle Tom in every crowd I suppose, depending on who you ask at least.

The Bible says what it says and I do not pretend that it doesn't. On balance, I think that society as a whole benefits from religious principles as they are absorbed into our institutions. I am not willing to be a part of denigrating or destroying these institutions because a group of rich Hollywood Jews/Gays/Atheists decide they want to destroy all things Christian. I have further studied quite a bit of the world's history of oppression, and, well I am not too dumb to do a will and don't need a $255 burial benefit, so I otherwise cannot find myself inconvenienced, let alone oppressed by society because of these laws.

 

hold on there twinkles you need to first prove it is god....

 

when our founders refer to God or the Creator, this is to whom they refer - guess that is "proof" we are a Deistic nation if anything...?

http://www.tfd.com/deists

de·ism (dzm, d-)
n.
The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation.

 

24 of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence held either seminary or bible school degrees. Yes there were a couple deists, but this was far and away from the norm.

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be" -John Adams

 

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1272214/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity

 

Huckabee is pro-children, and hence against Sexual Promiscuity of Straights and Gays,... which brings fatherless kids into the world.

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Just STOP telling everyone you are gay or sexually available.
Stop the promotion of sexual promiscuity so our kids stop it, too.

 

I wasn't speaking to you.

 

hate to break it to you buddy, but sex is in the top two of primal urges....

 

I will ask again. How does it prove that he is afraid of gays?

 

I am defending the guy. I am defending the argument he makes. I agree with his position. I think one can certainly stand on a principle without automatically hating or being afraid of those who hate the principle.

 

Right...
The first primal urge is The Instinct to Survive.

What happens is that the sex urge allows women to rise up as feminists and exploit the male eagerness to their benefit.

In the end, a socialistic society is created which needs taxes to pay Welfare and Health costs for single mother families whose fatherless kids are Child Abused and also the criminal element behind 70% of violent crime.

Nations have not been able to last long under these conditions of a matriarchy, since neighboring patriarchies, like Islam, N Korea, China, etc, invade and conquer them.

 

time to back off the anti psychotics ,don't ya think?

 

I'm blue and I don't support equal rights for Smurfs either...

 

QUOTE=smevins;1063862378]

[cupid dave
Just STOP telling everyone you are gay or sexually available.
Stop the promotion of sexual promiscuity so our kids stop it, too.


smevins
I wasn't speaking to you.

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What about the kids...?

Statistics on Fatherlessness
CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
(*)
It’s a Fact
Here’s why:

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).

80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
(*)
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
• 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
• 24.3 times more likely to run away
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
• 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
• 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
• 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
• 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
•(*) 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions

Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

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What about the kids...?